AMD Bulldozer Finally!

[Buckster]

I think the post must me no reviews until 10 days before launch ?

otherwise surely anyone can buy one at launch and post benches etc/user reviews anyway ?

 

[d_brennen]

I think the post must me no reviews until 10 days before launch ?

otherwise surely anyone can buy one at launch and post benches etc/user reviews anyway ?

Sherlock, you may be on to something!

 

[Buckster]

Sherlock, you may be on to something!

lol - yes obvious now - but wasn't before

I mean in past launches for some pc parts doesn't necessarily mean in shops ready to buy - variety of different types of "launch"

 

[pmc25]

I meant before.

It was ambiguous as to what I meant, but I don't know why so many of you chose to interpret as the least logical of the 2 options

 

[neo5555]

But AM3+ being designed for BD doesn't make sense if BD is crippled for AM3+

Dude, you really think ( or believe ) that AMD would release a brand new "crippled" architecture that they are heavily depending on ?
The product will be what it is.. nothing more, nothing less.

Like all manufatured goods, the next generation will be better of course, but to suggest that the first gen will be crippled is idiotic. Otherwise, everything you buy is " crippled " simply because the next model is better and improved.

Think about it for a minute....

 

[Jokester]

I thought it was widely reported that BD was crippled to fit AM3+ to maintain backwards compatability with AM3?

 

[Martini1991]

I thought it was widely reported that BD was crippled to fit AM3+ to maintain backwards compatability with AM3?

Exactly.
Which in itself makes no sense.
Why not go straight ahead with FM2, as people who want AM3 compatibility would already have an AM3 board.

People are being overly optimistic about BD.

Dude, you really think ( or believe ) that AMD would release a brand new "crippled" architecture that they are heavily depending on ?
The product will be what it is.. nothing more, nothing less.

Like all manufatured goods, the next generation will be better of course, but to suggest that the first gen will be crippled is idiotic. Otherwise, everything you buy is " crippled " simply because the next model is better and improved.

Think about it for a minute....

As Jokester said.
Which is why it's FM2 that "The fun will begin".
AMD do a lot of things which don't make sense. They released Llano, which while the IGP is impressive, it's IPC is that of Athlon II, they released this after SB.

 

[djkav]

So really, its a waste spending money on BD and AM3+.

 

[Jokester]

So really, its a waste spending money on BD and AM3+.

I wouldn't go that far, but there was a clear suggestion that design sacrifices were made to ensure that BD (& AM3+) would work with AM3 and vice versa.

 

[easyrider]

Why are they so obsessed with keeping the old sockets?

I know its good for consumers but I for one would jump to BD and a new socket in a jiffy it was faster than SB

They are shooting themselves in the foot are they not?

 

[Final8y]

AMD do a lot of things which don't make sense. They released Llano, which while the IGP is impressive, it's IPC is that of Athlon II, they released this after SB.

The fact it was released after SB makes no difference because they don't have anything for that market segment that can compete with SB IPC period, so they went with what they could & its doing well so it makes sense.
If they did have something that could but didn't go with it then you would have a point.

 

[Martini1991]

The fact it was released after SB makes no difference because they don't have anything for that market segment that can compete with SB IPC period, so they went with what they could & its doing well so it makes sense.

It would have been nice to see something faster than Deneb IPC...
So it doesn't make sense.
How do you know they couldn't have released a better product?

 

[Judgeneo]

Ahh a new thread title...


Am I right in thinking there has been no more information on performance and price etc..?

 

[Final8y]

It would have been nice to see something faster than Deneb IPC...
So it doesn't make sense.

It would have been nice but more expensive & Llano costs enough as it is & what sell is what make sense & the average consumer who this chip is aimed at hasn't got a clue about IPC.

 

[Final8y]

How do you know they couldn't have released a better product?

We could speculate that about every product in existence.

 

[Martini1991]

The average consumer wouldn't buy llano, as it's not in the shops as such last time I checked, they're full of SB computers.
Llano is/was too expensive at launch for its target market.

Llano is doing well though, and I expect it to flood the market soon.

 

[Final8y]

The average consumer wouldn't buy llano, as it's not in the shops as such last time I checked, they're full of SB computers.
Llano is/was too expensive at launch for its target market.

Llano is doing well though, and I expect it to flood the market soon.

So who is buying it then if not the average consumer ?

Because everywhere i look i see.

AMD plans to release new A-series chips, which are code-named Llano, for consumer laptops and desktops

 

[Martini1991]

You took my post too literally .
But look at the shops, mainly the new argos, it's all SB, no Llano.
EDIT : Though it could have changed!

 

[Final8y]

You took my post too literally .
But look at the shops, mainly the new argos, it's all SB, no Llano.

Argos is not an OEM PC distributor.

The first place you look is at PCworld, HP, Dell. ext..

 

[Martini1991]

Argos is not an OEM PC distributor.

The first place you look is at PCworld, HP, Dell. ext..

Argos is a place a lot of people look at, the general populace that is.
But yes, I agree, it's not on the same scale as PCWorld, HP, Dell etc.