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Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:36

Martini1991 said:
Argos is a place a lot of people look at, the general populace that is.
But yes, I agree, it's not on the same scale as PCWorld, HP, Dell etc.

Argos is a general store & not a PC specific store so its range is going to be greatly limited in any given area.

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:36

Final8y said:
Argos is a general store & not a PC specific store so its range is going to be greatly limited in any given area.

PC World, I don't see Llano

You're right, Argos is a general store, but it doesn't stop people using it to buy PC's.

Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:43

Martini1991 said:
PC World, I don't see Llano
You're right, Argos is a general store, but it doesn't stop people using it to buy PC's.

You don't say!

http://www.pcworld.com/article/230240/hp_announces_laptops_with_new_amd_llano_chips.html
http://www.*****.net/content/item.php?item=31378

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:44

Final8y said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/230240/hp_announces_laptops_with_new_amd_llano_chips.html

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Link me to a Llano PC on PC World, not a 2 month old article.

Destination · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:45

Jokester said:
I wouldn't go that far, but there was a clear suggestion that design sacrifices were made to ensure that BD (& AM3+) would work with AM3 and vice versa.

Which might have made good sence if they had managed to get it shipped six or preferably nine months ago.
They didn't and date pushing for the next generation of chips might hurt very very badly.

Jokester · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:45

Final8y said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/230240/hp_announces_laptops_with_new_amd_llano_chips.html

You do realise that the PC World magazine is completely unrelated to the store?

Edit: Can we stop talking about competitors whilst we're at it.

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:45

Jokester said:
You do realise that the PC World magazine is completely unrelated to the store?

And two months old

EDIT : Sorry.
EDIT 2 : But all you've done Final8 is prove my point, it's not readily available for the general populace.

Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:51

Jokester said:
You do realise that the PC World magazine is completely unrelated to the store?

Edit: Can we stop talking about competitors whilst we're at it.

Yes i do know on both counts.

Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:55

Martini1991 said:
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Link me to a Llano PC on PC World, not a 2 month old article.

I said that's the first place you would look & didn't say that they would have any in stock.

If they were in stock & were not selling then you could say consumers are not buying.

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 22:57

But consumers aren't buying, because they can't

Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:01

Martini1991 said:
And two months old
EDIT : Sorry.
EDIT 2 : But all you've done Final8 is prove my point, it's not readily available for the general populace.

No you said

The average consumer wouldn't buy llano, as it's not in the shops as such last time I checked, they're full of SB computers.
Llano is/was too expensive at launch for its target market.

First before you know they would not it has to be available to them.

So the only point that is valid is the lack of availability.

There are places in the UK but its from places that are clear competitors.

Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:02

Martini1991 said:
But consumers aren't buying, because they can't

Which nulls your point about wouldn't.

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:03

The average consumer wouldn't buy Llano is correct, that is the current case, and why I made the point, as I'd previously looked at the Argos catalouge.
Hell, I even made the point in the post you quoted...

They're not buying Llano, as they're not available to buy, SB is however..

Final8y said:
Which nulls your point about wouldn't.

Oh dear...

Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:06

Martini1991 said:
The average consumer wouldn't buy Llano is correct, that is the current case, and why I made the point, as I'd previously looked at the Argos catalouge.
Hell, I even made the point in the post you quoted...

They're not buying Llano, as they're not available to buy, SB is however..

Oh dear...

You clearly don't understand the term wouldn't to can't.

If its not available then you cant buy it.

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:07

Final8y said:
You clearly don't understand the term wouldn't to cant.

They wouldn't be buying Llano, and they're not buying Llano, because they can't.
How are you not grasping that?
Llano isn't readily available, so they won't buy it, even though it's available at OCUK etc.
EDIT : To make it easy.
Llano is available, the general populace however aren't buying, but they won't, due to the limited availability.
From the general places, they can't buy it, as it's not available.

Jokester · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:11

Give it a break guys.

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:12

Jokester said:
Give it a break guys.

Fair enough.

Final8y · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:22

Martini1991 said:
They wouldn't be buying Llano, and they're not buying Llano, because they can't.
How are you not grasping that?
Llano isn't readily available, so they won't buy it, even though it's available at OCUK etc.

Because your mixing up the meanings with incorrect context.

Because there is difference to wont buy it because they don't want it & to wont be buying it because its not available.

Martini1991 · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:24

Final8y said:
Because your mixing up the meanings with incorrect context.

Because there is difference to wont buy it because they don't want it & to wont be buying it because its not available.

They can't buy it from their usual places.
And they won't be buying it from OCUK etc, as the general populace don't shop here or competitors.

Both statements are true, now give it a rest.

SlugForAButt · 21 Aug 2011 at 23:27

Hmm, you know there's no room for movement in people's beliefs when they are arguing over semantics.