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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

it would seem AMD are as stupid as it seems, first we get all the hype, then the world record single core 8.4 gig....so far so good

then the NDA lifts and we get the faildozer benches, but most stores are still waiting for stock of said item,

allowing all the die hards (like myself) time to cancel, or decline orders? :eek:

and personaly i woud like to see a comment somewhere from JF-AMD from any source, he would not shut up for weeks before NDA lift, now he has vanished of the planet.

personaly i will be sticking with my 1100t, in my mobo upgrade for faildozer, at least i got a UEFI bios :)
 
kitch9 said:
Did something give you the impression that this is a chip without issues?
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I knew AMD had yield issues with the 32nm process at Goflo but I thought that's why Bulldozer was released late so that they could get stock to the resellers but I didn't think it was going to so bad that there wouldn't be any CPU's to sell come the end of the NDA.
 
Freddie1980 said:
I can't help but feel AMD would have been better off tweaking their existing architecture for 32nm and giving us a Phenom 3 or something along those lines.
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I don't think that would have been practical. A die shrink of last gen's Phenoms would certainly have performed better in a desktop environment than Zambezi, but you have to remember that their main market for these chips are servers, and the Opterons are probably giving Xeons a run for their money in terms off performance/Watt (a lot more so than the desktop parts). They've been struggling so much with their 32nm process with Llano that it hardly made sense to set up TWO more 32nm lines (one for the Bulldozer chips and one for the Phenom die shrinks). Both Interlagos and Zambezi are coming off the same wafers remember, so they only need a single process there, and they're using it to sort out the kinks so they can set up the other line for Trinity.

It's the same problems they had with Barcelona: they're VERY weak in manufacturing capacity, but their new plant comes online next year, they paid off most of their massive debts using the settlement money Intel paid them for the various antitrust lawsuits, and things should really kick off for them then. Clearly, the ideal situation would've been to keep Bulldozer for servers and give us a 32nm Phenom for desktop, but they just don't have enough manufacturing lines.
 
Martini1991 said:
People keep bringing up the server debate, that's all well and good, but these aren't the opterons now are they :p?
They're desktop CPU's.
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They mite as well be called Interlargos cores.

I held out long enough to upgrade, A cheap i5 set up is looking likely.
 
you gota love the solution that is being banded about to all this faildozer fracas, here it is.

in newer bios's, you should have the abiltiy to disable individual cores, disable every other core from each of the 4 modules, and you have a 4 core chip that you can run @4.5 gig on air.

pure genius :rolleyes:
 
Seems a very bizarre situation with these chips. Seem to perform exceptional well in some tasks but then absolutely awful with others. In some games changing to a lower resolution doesn't even increase frame rate. Very odd, like the chip has hit a cache limit or something (remember the 5850/70 tessellation engine had something like this going on.

I also can't believe the power usage, it's insane. It's not like it's even performing well so could be excused.
 
soundood said:
you gota love the solution that is being banded about to all this faildozer fracas, here it is.

in newer bios's, you should have the abiltiy to disable individual cores, disable every other core from each of the 4 modules, and you have a 4 core chip that you can run @4.5 gig on air.

pure genius :rolleyes:
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Well what they are saying, If you disable a core in each module then that enabled core in each module has the full resource. Another forum is claiming its just about as fast as with all 8 cores enabled.
 
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