AMD Bulldozer Finally!

pmc25 · 8 Jun 2011 at 19:14

as905 said:
nah i changed my mind i dont want to be a beta tester ,i will wait & see what the pricing on the 6 core 12mb sandy bridge-e will be like (i heard it can be oc at 5+ghz easly) before i decide on my next upgrade but i think its going to be an intel upgrade anyway.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4291/additional-details-on-sandy-bridgee-processors-x79-and-lga2011

Sandy Bridge-E is a new architecture and completely new mobo chipset.

Ivy Bridge is a massive die shrink on a completely new process technology, with partial mobo chipset compatibility with Sandy Bridge boards.

Better not consider those ... you'd be a beta-tester ....

pmc25 · 8 Jun 2011 at 19:21

edit: didn't read post properly

Sampsy · 9 Jun 2011 at 12:08

Whether BD works out or not it would be nice to see at least something which could push intel's prices down.

mikeo · 9 Jun 2011 at 13:01

Sampsy said:
Whether BD works out or not it would be nice to see at least something which could push intel's prices down.

A nice thought.

But I personally would consider the SB CPU's to be pretty reasonably priced now! Though always happy if things get cheaper. Compared to the prices for the speedier core-2 quads, they are almost ("almost") a giveaway.

Only my opinion of course

zxh800 · 9 Jun 2011 at 13:05

I don't mind waiting a couple of months if it means I can save a tenner or two! That's all the difference is between a 2400 and a 2500k!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 9 Jun 2011 at 15:20

This thread has an early B0 4 module Bulldozer engineering CPU in a 990FX motherboard:

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-210890-1-1.html

There are also some results from another B0 engineering CPU:

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-210024-1-1.html

However,the system had a few BSODs. This probably means the CPU is a very early buggy engineering sample and hence the results cannot be fully trusted IMHO.

TBH,I don't see the point of these benchmarks as they are early engineering samples with buggy microcode.

The current CPUs are meant to B1 and B2 steppings.

Scougar · 9 Jun 2011 at 15:33

Are any of those results good though? No idea as I don't really bench.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 9 Jun 2011 at 15:35

Scougar said:
Are any of those results good though? No idea as I don't really bench.

They are alll early B0 samples so the results should be ignored IMHO. Until we get B1 and B2 samples we cannot make any conclusions at all.

CSMonkeh · 9 Jun 2011 at 16:06

Just noticed the gigabyte AM3+ boards (UD5 and 7) are "in stock" here. Is that an error or for real????
May jump on board with a cheap AM3 cpu until BD comes out.

clocka · 9 Jun 2011 at 16:08

the nda must have been lifted as ocuk's main competitor now have am3+ boards listed and also in stock, none were listed before.

Scougar · 9 Jun 2011 at 16:10

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
They are alll early B0 samples so the results should be ignored IMHO. Until we get B1 and B2 samples we cannot make any conclusions at all.

That's like saying early tests for a proof-of-concept are worthless. Just interested where they stand, I realise they may not be indicative of the 'true' performance. I was just interested from those that bench.

littlepuppy · 9 Jun 2011 at 16:12

Boards are for sale and in stock, just ordered one and its shipped.

CSMonkeh · 9 Jun 2011 at 16:19

littlepuppy said:
Boards are for sale and in stock, just ordered one and its shipped.

Awesome!! May have to get gigabyte UD5 (no mood for CHV and now a little wary of ASUS after their SB dramas).
Plus i think its the better looking 'board imo. Plus 2 x 16x PCI-e in case i do wanna x-fire at some point....

Scougar · 9 Jun 2011 at 16:26

So you guys are just getting these boards with your old chips, and then swapping them out when the BD chips come along?

CSMonkeh · 9 Jun 2011 at 16:29

Scougar said:
So you guys are just getting these boards with your old chips, and then swapping them out when the BD chips come along?

Think that'll be the plan - spread the cost of upgrading so ur not spending it all at once. Myself (see spec in sig) prob get cheap Phenom II and wait a few months then get BD cheap and maybe memory upgrade....

littlepuppy · 9 Jun 2011 at 17:01

Ive (personally( been desperate to move off intel just because I do "like" AMD... So got myself a sempron 140 that will hopefully unlock, and will now have a play with new toy whilst waiting for BD....

Cant wait to get SLI back on AMD

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 9 Jun 2011 at 18:30

Another test of the crippled B0 engineering sample:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=272022

It seems that the B0 engineering samples are actually running at half their stated clockspeeds like with the Llano engineering samples. The L2 and L3 cache may also not be fully functional in the B0 engineering samples.

Sayso · 9 Jun 2011 at 19:26

getting close now..

clocka · 9 Jun 2011 at 19:38

5 days till llano which may possibly be an i3 desktop killer, especially graphics-wise.

TB1968 · 9 Jun 2011 at 20:26

Llano will dominate the low end laptop/netbook market for sure, Intel's intergrated HD2000/3000 doesnt run anywhere near the clock speed, but they can (and will) improve it.
As for desktops, really a bit useless running an intergrated chip when you have a designated graphics card with more memory and better cooling, intel's intergrated graphics is overridden I believe when there is a different GPU running, I would expect the same from AMD.