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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

My 1055t @ 4ghz will be fine for bf3, i can't understand some people who are just upgrade for one game. What if it turns out to be pants:confused:
 
Combat squirrel said:
I notice everyone is caving, im still holding out my 6core at 4ghz is getting me by, lmao
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most people just upgrade for the sake of it or fool themselfs into thinking they need to.

play games and keep an eye on task manager.. no way anyone with a cpu from the last 1-2 years needs to upgrade just for gaming
 
Combat squirrel said:
That's a daft comment, Im sure an 8 core bulldozer with an appropriate rest of system will be more than enough to run BF3 on max :rolleyes:
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I see you didn't get the point.

BF3 will most likely make no use of more than 4 cores efficiently thus making an 8-core Bulldozer just as good as its 4-core counterpart.

It's all speculation but we know a bit of Frostbite 2 and I'm pretty sure it's not being optimised for octo-core CPUs.

That is precisely why I think that if Bulldozer doesn't have required power per core, it will most likely not beat a cheap Sandybridge counterpart.

Make of that what you will.
 
mathwat said:
My 1055t @ 4ghz will be fine for bf3, i can't understand some people who are just upgrade for one game. What if it turns out to be pants:confused:
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arknor said:
most people just upgrade for the sake of it or fool themselfs into thinking they need to.

play games and keep an eye on task manager.. no way anyone with a cpu from the last 1-2 years needs to upgrade just for gaming
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All very true, however I still find my 1055t 95watt 4ghz incredibly sluggish in Adobe premier, infact so jittery im wondering if somethings up, it should be ok, also using 16gb of ram.

EDIT: I think it maybe due to only 3gb free space on drive C even though iv selected another drive for it to use.
 
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Mr Krugga said:
I see you didn't get the point.

BF3 will most likely make no use of more than 4 cores efficiently thus making an 8-core Bulldozer just as good as its 4-core counterpart.

It's all speculation but we know a bit of Frostbite 2 and I'm pretty sure it's not being optimised for octo-core CPUs.

That is precisely why I think that if Bulldozer doesn't have required power per core, it will most likely not beat a cheap Sandybridge counterpart.

Make of that what you will.
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Not a personal attack on you!

However, what we must be very careful of doing (me included) is not parroting what we hear from others as fact, other wise fiction becomes fact becuase so many say it.

Now saying that BF3 will not scale effectivly beyound 4 cores, is a statement grounded in thin air.

For one, BF3 isnt out yet, and two BFBC2 scales up to 8 cores already, so take from that what you will.

Obviously however BF3 performance will improve the most with GPU power rather than cpu, but the cpu will still have a part in the show.
 
Mr Krugga said:
I see you didn't get the point.

It's all speculation but we know a bit of Frostbite 2 and I'm pretty sure it's not being optimised for octo-core CPUs.

That is precisely why I think that if Bulldozer doesn't have required power per core, it will most likely not beat a cheap Sandybridge counterpart.

Make of that what you will.
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This I agree with however.
 
Being honest i am swinging more to the Intel setup for my upgrade not just because BD isn't out but because there is just very very little coming from AMD about it. Also if it is true they are releasing new cpu's after six months not very confidence inspiring on buying first gen is it.

Amd need to sort this out and get a grip on whats going on as right now it doesn't seem like a very well handled product launch and while i highly doubt i will get it i would like a response form JF on this six months thing.
 
opethdisciple said:
Not a personal attack on you!

However, what we must be very careful of doing (me included) is not parroting what we hear from others as fact, other wise fiction becomes fact becuase so many say it.

Now saying that BF3 will not scale effectivly beyound 4 cores, is a statement grounded in thin air.

For one, BF3 isnt out yet, and two BFBC2 scales up to 8 cores already, so take from that what you will.

Obviously however BF3 performance will improve the most with GPU power rather than cpu, but the cpu will still have a part in the show.
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http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/861216-bfbc2-cpu-scaling.html

That's regarding BC2, we've yet to see what Frostbite 2.0 offers but the game is bound to be GPU-dependent and will probably not require a very powerful CPU to play smoothly.
 
Even if it is delayed (think nvidia's 4XX series) it doesn't mean that it won't introduce competition into the market. I guess it just means AMD are losing money.

Saying that, I would rather a delay than suffer the huge issues that Sandybridge had with the B2 & B3 boards (I had to RMA my Asus P8P67 Pro).
 
RizlaKing said:
Being honest i am swinging more to the Intel setup for my upgrade not just because BD isn't out but because there is just very very little coming from AMD about it. Also if it is true they are releasing new cpu's after six months not very confidence inspiring on buying first gen is it.

Amd need to sort this out and get a grip on whats going on as right now it doesn't seem like a very well handled product launch and while i highly doubt i will get it i would like a response form JF on this six months thing.
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true,
feels like the 1st & 2nd gen bulldozers are beta tests & the real finished product is the 3rd gen bulldozer which will release Q3 or Q4 2012.

they use their customers as beta testers instead of doing their tests in the lab. :D
 
as905 said:
true,
feels like the 1st & 2nd gen bulldozers are beta tests & the real finished product is the 3rd gen bulldozer which will release Q3 or Q4 2012.

they use their customers as beta testers instead of doing their tests in the lab. :D
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Whattt? Seriously? You really expect AMD to just stagnate and release a handful of CPUs based on a brand new architecture that's been in development for years? They need to have plenty of SKUs so that people can choose what's best for them. Besides, from a marketing perspective, you need new releases so that there's something fresh to push the whole time and because it gives the impression of progress.
 
edgedemon said:
How can you say that?
990FXA-UD799 or Crosshair V - the easy choice will be choosing the CPU, the hard bit will be which one of those beauties to buy...
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nah i changed my mind i dont want to be a beta tester :D,i will wait & see what the pricing on the 6 core 12mb sandy bridge-e will be like (i heard it can be oc at 5+ghz easly) before i decide on my next upgrade but i think its going to be an intel upgrade anyway. ;)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4291/additional-details-on-sandy-bridgee-processors-x79-and-lga2011
 
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RizlaKing said:
Being honest i am swinging more to the Intel setup for my upgrade not just because BD isn't out but because there is just very very little coming from AMD about it. Also if it is true they are releasing new cpu's after six months not very confidence inspiring on buying first gen is it.

Amd need to sort this out and get a grip on whats going on as right now it doesn't seem like a very well handled product launch and while i highly doubt i will get it i would like a response form JF on this six months thing.
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You do know Intel is releasing chips in December or so, then releasing new chips less than 6 months after that, and around 6 months after that they are releasing something else new. Though I fully expect Hessler(? completely forgotten the codename tbh) to be delayed well into 2013.

SO whats your point, if you upgrade your chips and improve them, it means the chips before aren't worth having?


As for gashman, you managed to make a post, a reply, and then make an unrelated even more exagerated "AMD is dying" post 10 minutes later with no new info. Oh no, Bulldozer is delayed, its a terrible sign, I'll go Intel. Even though Ivy bridge has been delayed by a larger amount than bulldozer. By the sounds of it also Bulldozer hasn't been delayed, they've switched the desktop/server chips launches around. Not entirely sure why, steppings/yields meaning they have more low clocked chips than high clocked, which suits servers lower clocks better so they'll simply have better availability of lower end chips for the first couple months. So rather than launch desktop first with low availability, they launch server first with plenty of chips, then desktop, with plenty of chips.

I'm also personally wondering if the desktop chips aren't being designed to be launched at the same time as something else, something else, 28nm ;)
 
as905 said:
nah i changed my mind i dont want to be a beta tester :D,i will wait & see what the pricing on the 6 core 12mb sandy bridge-e will be like (i heard it can be oc at 5+ghz easly) before i decide on my next upgrade but i think its going to be an intel upgrade anyway. ;)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4291/additional-details-on-sandy-bridgee-processors-x79-and-lga2011
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hexcore Sandys are on the same process, with generally higher TDP, I can't see them easily outclocking quad core ones.

Price wise, they aren't going to be pretty, or they weren't going to be, depends how well Bulldozer does as to if Intel drop chipset prices to get a few cheaper high end mobo's out and drop the lowest speed hexcores into the $300-400 bracket.
 
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