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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

Not trying to troll or anything but I did a full i5 [email protected] upgrade last week. I was going to hold out for BD just in case. I am happy that for once I made the right choice.

These BD chips must perform better with a nice OC though. Then again I dont read all the tech blurb gives me a headache :)
 
I guess I'm one of the few who aren't "disappointed". Bulldozer performs around the level I was expecting and is priced around the level I was expecting. I think some people need to learn to manage their expectations.

I prefer small form factor systems so the complete lack of mATX/mITX motherboards are the only reason I wouldn't consider one of these in a new build.
 
I am guessing the guys at intel are having a "laughing party" right about now!

Its a shame as far as the market is concerned, AMD have bought nothing worth while to the table and as a result the intel prices will not drop.

Ah well, Time to wait for Ivy.
 
Musty Pie said:
I am guessing the guys at intel are having a "laughing party" right about now!

Its a shame as far as the market is concerned, AMD have bought nothing worth while to the table and as a result the intel prices will not drop.

Ah well, Time to wait for Ivy.
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There was never any chance of an Intel price drop anyway. AMD simply can't get the fab capacity to put a big enough dent in Intels market share for that to happen.
 
Martini1991 said:
Grinning from ear to ear SB lads :p
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Why? You are being very short sighted.

Intel have probably laid off half their Ivy Bridge engineers this morning and told the rest to focus on cost savings.

They have no incentive to innovate or pay the multi billion dollar r&d now, this could set the entire industry back years, and cost as all much more in the process. Intel aren't known for their charity.

Awesome, you keep happy clapping like some kind of crazy person, whilst the rest of us with some common sense ponder how bad this could get.
 
Turambar said:
I guess I'm one of the few who aren't "disappointed". Bulldozer performs around the level I was expecting and is priced around the level I was expecting. I think some people need to learn to manage their expectations.
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So you expected AMD's next gen CPU to perform worse than their previous gen?

And you expected to pay more for the privilege of having less performance and higher power draw?


Stop kidding yourself, Bulldozer is an abject failure. It's the Prescott of AMD. Hot, power sucking, and poor IPC.

Hopefully they can turn it around with a good refresh, but that's not going to be any time soon. Until then Intel have the floor.
 
kitch9 said:
Why? You are being very short sighted.

Intel have probably laid off half their Ivy Bridge engineers this morning and told the rest to focus on cost savings.

They have no incentive to innovate or pay the multi billion dollar r&d now, this could set the entire industry back years, and cost as all much more in the process. Intel aren't known for their charity.

Awesome, you keep happy clapping like some kind of crazy person, whilst the rest of us with some common sense ponder how bad this could get.
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I know exactly had bad this is for the desktop market.
Don't get me wrong at all.

We need AMD to compete, but they're not, not in the slightest.
I'm not going to go "Oh AMD, good effort". I'm simply not going to buy it.
 
HeX said:
So you expected AMD's next gen CPU to perform worse than their previous gen?

And you expected to pay more for the privilege of having less performance and higher power draw?


Stop kidding yourself, Bulldozer is an abject failure. It's the Prescott of AMD. Hot, power sucking, and poor IPC.

Hopefully they can turn it around with a good refresh, but that's not going to be any time soon. Until then Intel have the floor.
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It performs better than Intels similarly priced offerings in some benchmarks, worse in others. It also performs better than the 1100T in some benchmarks and worse in others. From this you have concluded it fails at everything?
 
Turambar said:
I guess I'm one of the few who aren't "disappointed". Bulldozer performs around the level I was expecting and is priced around the level I was expecting. I think some people need to learn to manage their expectations.
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So you're satisfied with the sub-par single threaded performance which is worse than AMD's previous generation? (and was already thought to be Phenom II's weakness versus Intel)
 
mmj_uk said:
So you're satisfied with the sub-par single threaded performance which is worse than AMD's previous generation? (and was already thought to be Phenom II's weakness versus Intel)
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I can think of no circumstance where I would consider buying an 8 core CPU for its single-threaded performance.
 
Turambar said:
It performs better than Intels similarly priced offerings in some benchmarks, worse in others. It also performs better than the 1100T in some benchmarks and worse in others. From this you have concluded it fails at everything?
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A metric ton more transistors, 2 extra cores, higher clocks, a ton more power usage, to achieve what an Phenom II can do already, or slightly beat it.

And lets not even compare to the Intels where it gets seven shades knocked out of it.

In some tests it eeks ahead, in others it fails hard, overall with the power draw and poor IPC it's a bad CPU. No question, there is zero reason to buy one over an i5.

And only certain situations where its worth buying over an X6 (if you encode lots of x264 or render all the time).
 
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