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muziqaz said:
If polaris 10 kicks some serious arse, it doesn't matter how much vram it has, as long as it is still kicking arse. AMD proved they can optimize memory usage.
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No they didn't?

If they had I wouldn't be running out of memory so often.
Fiji only having 4gb's is a problem that Nvidia have been quite happy to exploit in titles like Tomb Raider ensuring that settings need to be reduced even though the fps is good.
If AMD do it again Nvidia would be laughing there backsides off.
 
Yup. If nV cards have more memory than AMD equivs, you can bet they'll be pushing features which eat up VRAM and cripple perf on the AMD cards.

If nV's lineup have 8GB mid-range cards and AMD's line-up has 4GB mid-range cards, it won't end well for AMD.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Its games specs where they are getting recommended over the Furys, look at GOW ultimate, the makers are saying, ideally, you need a 390 or a 980Ti, now the Ti smashes the 390 on performance, so its obviously not because of that.
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And how does the game actually run on the Fiji cards?
Terribly!

Anyone who claims that only having 4 gb's of memory on Fiji isn't an issue either hasn't owned the card, is defending it out of blind faith/ignorance or is unable to admit the shortcomings after buying it. I imagine the memory issue is worse for you than me cause you have 2 of them. The fact that we are now getting games that demand more than 4gb's of ram even at 1080p should tell us something.
 
FoxEye said:
Yup. If nV cards have more memory than AMD equivs, you can bet they'll be pushing features which eat up VRAM and cripple perf on the AMD cards.

If nV's lineup have 8GB mid-range cards and AMD's line-up has 4GB mid-range cards, it won't end well for AMD.
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i should think the bigger cards, the 10's will just go 8gb again
they talking a lot about multi gpu stuff going forward so would be pretty mixed signals not to have a 8gb option

i think for some of the smaller cards 4gb is fine
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
VR this, VR that pffffffffffft. Does anyone actually care for VR around here? just curious.

Personally I couldn't give two ***** about it, however I'm more interested in proper multi GPU scaling and big power hungry cards.
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Aye, it was all about the big VR push that next to no one is interested in.:p

They made up for it with this though:

Sixteen is not the number of games that have been ruined by Gameworks integration.
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Was a belter!!!:D
 
i kinda liked the flying VR stuff
can see it being fun for ppl of all ages + anyone with disabilities
i think one of the 1st pc games i ever played was magic carpet
they should remake that!!
have fond memories of that game
 
r7slayer said:
But are they limited to 4GB with HMB1?
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No. There is no technical limit. But it's 1GB per stack, and the Fiji chip is gigantic (a hair under 600mm2). I would expect for HBM1 Polaris they'll use 6 stacks instead of 4, outside chance of 8 (though I think unlikely). Big Polaris will be ~200mm2 or more smaller than Fiji so there should be room on the interposer. I don't think more than 4GB capacity is needed for the most part (though perhaps HDR will change that?). They will need significantly more bandwidth for big Polaris though ... Fiji scales quite well with memory clocking already. I think big Polaris will be quite bandwidth gated ... hence why it'll be replaced only 6 or 7 months later by Vega (HBM2 configurations will offer significantly more bandwidth).
 
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Polaris uses GDDR5:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10145/amd-unveils-gpu-architecture-roadmap-after-polaris-comes-vega

With Polaris confirmed to use GDDR5, Vega is notable for being the first AMD architecture to use HBM2, and the first parts in general to use HBM tech since Fiji. I’m presuming these are higher-end GPUs to complement the Polaris GPUs (the smaller of which we know to be a low-power laptop design), which is where HBM would be more cost-effective, at least at current prices.
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pmc25 said:
Polaris 10 and 11 use GDDR5. AMD stated that the memory controller supports HBM1 and HBM2 (though it will never see HBM2), and that they will show larger Polaris (not Vega) later.

A chip bigger than 10 will NEED more bandwidth than GDDR5 can offer. It'd be pointless without HBM.
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There is a THIRD Polaris chip??
 
Still going to need a power cable tho isn't it? Unless it runs on a laptop battery, in which case you'll get a couple hours before needing a charge :p
 
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