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AMD Carrizo APU Massive Leak – 40W TDP, Excavator Cores, 512 SP and Assorted Benchmarks

I wonder if these chips will actually be any good, and warrant purchase, unlike the current Kaveri mess...

I don't want to be spending >£135 on the "good" APU AMD... Your CPU performance is mediocre at best, and the GPU performance isn't much better than your last generation offerings.
Would maybe be good if they were readily available in the mobile sector, but I've not seen too much more than press releases and a few lackluster HP offerings...

Sort your life out AMD, we need more than promises and marketing.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
I wonder if these chips will actually be any good, and warrant purchase, unlike the current Kaveri mess...

I don't want to be spending >£135 on the "good" APU AMD... Your CPU performance is mediocre at best, and the GPU performance isn't much better than your last generation offerings.
Would maybe be good if they were readily available in the mobile sector, but I've not seen too much more than press releases and a few lackluster HP offerings...

Sort your life out AMD, we need more than promises and marketing.
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The Kaveri chips aren't bad, just priced to close to i3 / i5 in relation to their performance.

As Carrizo is looking like it's still going to be on 28nm, it's so mature at this point that hopefully they won't be to pricey.

Launching mid 2015 is a worry though, AMD might just miss their opportunity for big sales as Broadwell / Skylake could be out by then with better IGPU VS Haswell and more CPU performance which is already miles ahead of AMD, making Carrizo look less appealing.
 
Bonjour said:
It pains me to say it, but the video smacks slightly of desperation.
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Agreed. It said more about what they are missing than what we are going to get i think.
The GPU side is so innovative compared to this painful display. a video promising to release cores that should have been out two years ago and then what looks like a paper launch until the next Q?

on top of not releasing the cores without a IGPU intergration? they are killing all hope.

I think I'll be buying a 8370 to keep me going for a year or so and then see what happens, but its looking like intel. And yes, I've been rocking a Phenom 2 for 4 years.
 
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As I wrote elsewhere..

This is what happens when you ask a business ahole to be excited about a product.

It's clear he's reading from a script, and doesn't make me excited in the slightest.

This one's a fail AMD. Maybe next time get some one up there who knows what he's talking about and actually cares.
 
Lol,considering the current price of the a8 7600 you are vetting a £50 igp thrown into a sub £70 chip. Anyway I like how people were saying amd GPUs would not get any of the tech seen in Maxwell and argued with me about it. Looks like the next amd GPUs will be having similar tech - who would have thought? :)
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Carrizo and Carrizo-L announced:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8742/amd-announces-carrizo-and-carrizol-next-gen-apus-for-h1-2015

http://techreport.com/news/27392/am...-2015-will-share-package-with-beema-successor



So quite a while for actual systems though.



It supports DX12.



It seems that the next APUs will suppport memory bandwidth compression.

However people doubted me about what GPU changes AMD would make:

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So AMD is implementing similar features like in Nvidia Maxwell for its APUs meaning that its discrete GPUs will be getting similar tech too.
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That does indeed look like the same tech as Maxwell, interesting :)
 
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AMD: Carrizo APU targets mobile platform only, Kaveri to power Desktop side till 2016

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-carrizo-apu-targetting-mobile-kaveri-power-desktop-side-2016/#ixzz3KSpnai7Q

I cannot confirm whether this is authentic or not although this is in all probability legit since its based of ISSCC 2015. Basically, the piece states once again that Carrizo APU has been designed specifically for mobility platforms and wont be appearing on the desktop APU socket like Kaveri till 2016.
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I do sometimes wonder what AMD are playing at. Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay and now that its way too late we can release it.

2016, they might as well not bother if its going to be that late.

I know they are trying to break into the Mobile market, but if they take even 1% of Intel's share Intel will just give their CPU's to OEM vendors for free to push AMD out.

To put all your resource into a singular section of the market that is dominated by someone who can afford to give their products away just to hold that domination is idiotic.
 
humbug said:
I do sometimes wonder what AMD are playing at. Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay Delay and now that its way too late we can release it.

2016, they might as well not bother if its going to be that late.

I know they are trying to break into the Mobile market, but if they take even 1% of Intel's share Intel will just give their CPU's to OEM vendors for free to push AMD out.

To put all your resource into a singular section of the market that is dominated by someone who can afford to give their products away just to hold that domination is idiotic.
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+1

Even if the products are great, launching to late will make them look old hat in comparison to Intel's latest.

I think we just have to accept that at least for next year or two AMD are just holding the value alternative to Intel / Nvidia, which is not a bad thing.

Just disappointing to those of us who want to see AMD doing better and holding a more dominant market share. The glory days of AMD CPU's are well and truly gone, old FX chips and not even refreshing the APU desktop line does seem like a really odd strategy, but if they can't command money in those segments I guess there is no point for them to try atm. Would love to see AMD back as the performance leader..

Hopefully 2016 will see some good products, I'm not holding my breath though. Intel's current stuff is great and by 2016 god knows how good their CPU's and integrated graphics will be. If Intel can rival AMD's APU graphics then it's difficult to see what part of the market AMD can target, other than the 'value alternative'.

They have got some decent guys at AMD though, maybe 2016 will be the big comeback they need, but will it be to late by then..
 
Boomstick777 said:
+1

Even if the products are great, launching to late will make them look old hat in comparison to Intel's latest.

I think we just have to accept that at least for next year or two AMD are just holding the value alternative to Intel / Nvidia, which is not a bad thing.

Just disappointing to those of us who want to see AMD doing better and holding a more dominant market share. The glory days of AMD CPU's are well and truly gone, old FX chips and not even refreshing the APU desktop line does seem like a really odd strategy, but if they can't command money in those segments I guess there is no point for them to try atm. Would love to see AMD back as the performance leader..

Hopefully 2016 will see some good products, I'm not holding my breath though. Intel's current stuff is great and by 2016 god knows how good their CPU's and integrated graphics will be. If Intel can rival AMD's APU graphics then it's difficult to see what part of the market AMD can target, other than the 'value alternative'.

They have got some decent guys at AMD though, maybe 2016 will be the big comeback they need, but will it be to late by then..
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The 'Value alternative' does not work, thats what AMD have been doing for the past 10 years, their market share in CPU / APU Vendor OEM's is about 5% and falling.

Enthusiast level retail CPU's is about 90% Intel / 10% AMD

Look at GPU's, AMD had GPU equality with Nvidia until Maxwell, during that time GPU share was around 60% Nvidia / 40% AMD. Post Maxwell AMD just have the 'Value alternative' within Months its gone 75% Nvidia / 25% AMD, and rapidly heading 90% / 10% share.

AMD have to match Nvidia on efficiency, performance and then also beat them on price just to maintain a reasonable market share.

They have to do pretty much the same with Intel to avoid getting pushed out completely.
 
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humbug said:
The 'Value alternative' does not work, thats what AMD have been doing for the past 10 years, their market share in CPU / APU Vendor OEM's is about 5% and falling.

Enthusiast level retail CPU's is about 90% Intel / 10% AMD

Look at GPU's, AMD had GPU equality with Nvidia until Maxwell, during that time GPU share was around 60% Nvidia / 40% AMD. Post Maxwell AMD just have the 'Value alternative' within Months its gone 75% Nvidia / 25% AMD, and rapidly heading 90% / 10% share.

AMD have to match Nvidia on efficiency, performance and then also beat them on price just to maintain a reasonable market share.

They have to do pretty much the same with Intel to avoid getting pushed out completely.
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Obviously it doesn't work, that was the point of my post. To take significant market share AMD need to be a leader again, the flagship product gives a positive rainbow effect over other products in a company's range, in this case CPU / APU stuff. AMD do not have a flagship atm, and are way behind their competitors.

The GPU space AMD is still doing ok, the 290X and 290 are still decently competitive on performance and price. The R9 295X2 acts as a performance flagship for AMD, and soon AMD will launch new GPU's that will compete for the single GPU crown again.. They need something like this is the CPU space.

Hopefully 2016 can change this, but will it be to late to take the lead again.. Intel will also have new products..
 
humbug said:
I know they are trying to break into the Mobile market, but if they take even 1% of Intel's share Intel will just give their CPU's to OEM vendors for free to push AMD out.
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They can't do that it would break monopoly rules.

TBH if it weren't for those strict rules Intel could kill AMD any time.

Thankfully they'd be fined out the ass if they tried that.
 
AMD cannot take on Intel and Nvidia on their own.

What AMD need is an industry advocate, someone to realise the importance of having a semi conductor market not entirely dominated by those two.

One of the giants to give AMD a leg up.

There are completely unsubstantiated rumours that Samsung are doing that, and for whatever reason Apple have taken a shine to AMD's GPU's, first the Mac Pro and now the iMac all come with AMD GPU's.

What has happened to Qualcomm recently may wake the likes of Samsung up to the dangers anyone vendor with total dominance has.

Not too unlike Supermarkets over hear having so much power they can force food producers to supply them at below cost, and often do driving UK producers out of business while using those willing to substitute beef for horse or artificial bulking agents.
 
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Boomstick777 said:
I think we just have to accept that at least for next year or two AMD are just holding the value alternative to Intel / Nvidia, which is not a bad thing.
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Not too sure that they are even doing that to be honest, ignoring Nvidia as they don't make CPU's. Looking on this very site the cheapest Intel CPU £42, ( a haswell Pentium at 3GHz) to get a comparable AMD cpu you have to looking at Athlon x4 750k or similar which are all nearly 15% dearer.

Now yes some of the AMD APU have better GPU's on board but to be honest do you really think that the people that are buying in at this end of the market are going be buying because Game A will run a few FPS quicker, or will it due to the sometimes not so good CPU performance.
Yes there is a whole host of AMD CPU's below that price but their performance really is truly dire.
 
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