AMD confirms Ryzen 7 5800X3D launches this spring, Zen4 Raphael in 2H 2022

Dave2150 · 4 Jan 2022 at 11:08

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-con...-launches-this-spring-zen4-raphael-in-2h-2022

Videocardz said:
Desktop Ryzen CPUs with 3D V-Cache and next-gen Ryzen with Zen4 architecture are part of the CES 2022 announcements.

Excellent news - looking forward to competition from AMD this year. Suspect the 'H2' launch for Zen4 will be late November/December, hope theyre able to secure enough wafers from TSMC to make this happen.

Robert896r1 · 4 Jan 2022 at 11:34

The Zen3D single sku is a bit of a meme and frankly forgettable. I'm sure some diehards will get it but outside of very cache happy games like CS:GO, it'll be meh.

Zen 4 is interesting and clearly will start off with DDR5 support which is great. Hopefully DDR5 IC maturity, price and availability is normalized by Q4.

Cyber-Mav · 4 Jan 2022 at 11:42

Hmm so they will do a single ccx cpu with vcache. Interesting.

uscool · 4 Jan 2022 at 11:42

Zen3D is like a refresh dont see the issue with it unlike Rocket lake

but if you currently have zen 3 cpu wouldnt bother upgrading to it

Dave2150 · 4 Jan 2022 at 11:50

Robert896r1 said:
The Zen3D single sku is a bit of a meme and frankly forgettable. I'm sure some diehards will get it but outside of very cache happy games like CS:GO, it'll be meh.

Zen 4 is interesting and clearly will start off with DDR5 support which is great. Hopefully DDR5 IC maturity, price and availability is normalized by Q4.

DDR5 is pretty easy to get already - been loads of stock of Gskill 5600Mhz, 6000Mhz kits in the last few weeks, for MSRP.

jigger · 4 Jan 2022 at 12:16

Cyber-Mav said:
Hmm so they will do a single ccx cpu with vcache. Interesting.

Also a dual.

Cyber-Mav · 4 Jan 2022 at 14:21

how much cache it gonna have?

Iron Man · 4 Jan 2022 at 15:47

Looks very promising for those of us that didn’t jump on the alder lake train.

SkeeterUK · 4 Jan 2022 at 15:50

Robert896r1 said:
The Zen3D single sku is a bit of a meme and frankly forgettable. I'm sure some diehards will get it but outside of very cache happy games like CS:GO, it'll be meh.

Zen 4 is interesting and clearly will start off with DDR5 support which is great. Hopefully DDR5 IC maturity, price and availability is normalized by Q4.

Lol the amd ces thing just said in a slide it was 2% lower on that game with the 58003d one.

Kelutrel · 4 Jan 2022 at 15:55

I currently have a 5900X. I am not interested in the 5800X3D, but I would be happy to buy a 5900X3D with 192MB high-speed v-cache if available.
No news about anything like it has been shared in the CES 2022 live stream, but at the Computex last year Lisa Su mentioned it.
Does anyone know if a 5900X3D will reach the market and when ?

SkeeterUK · 4 Jan 2022 at 15:56

probs the same time as the 5800x3d, the 5900x3d will come? As i doubt they will only do 1 cpu with it. Could be just like a slight delay from launch i.e say 5800x3d one month then next month or two the other one will be out?

Harlequin · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:01

SkeeterUK said:
Lol the amd ces thing just said in a slide it was 2% lower on that game with the 58003d one.

Zen 4, AM5, Ryzen 5800X3D, Radeon RX 6500 XT, Ryzen Mobile 6000 - AMD Goes Bang at CES - YouTube

Kelutrel · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:04

SkeeterUK said:
probs the same time as the 5800x3d, the 5900x3d will come? As i doubt they will only do 1 cpu with it. Could be just like a slight delay from launch i.e say 5800x3d one month then next month or two the other one will be out?

Doubt that they would not mention the other variants at CES if that was the case, but I'm only guessing, let's see...

Dave2150 · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:06

"Spring" 2022 for launch, was hoping we'd see this sooner. Then again AMD say Zen4 is "on track" for 2H 2022 release - though what's on track can easily run later. I think AMD would prefer a solid year between Zen3 refresh and Zen4 launch, not to annoy their own customers etc.

Harlequin · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:08

Dave2150 said:
"Spring" 2022 for launch, was hoping we'd see this sooner. Then again AMD say Zen4 is "on track" for 2H 2022 release - though what's on track can easily run later. I think AMD would prefer a solid year between Zen3 refresh and Zen4 launch, not to annoy their own customers etc.

Unless the 5800X3D is the only product with vcache on AM4.... want all the goodies ? The go AM5!

timorous · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:09

Harlequin said:
Unless the 5800X3D is the only product with vcache on AM4.... want all the goodies ? The go AM5!

It is looking possible. I suspect Milan-X demand caught them by surprise so they scaled back the desktop ambitions with a single chiplet SKU that has looser binning requirments than the server SKUs so as to not take supply away from the server market.

Journey · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:18

Dave2150 said:
"Spring" 2022 for launch, was hoping we'd see this sooner. Then again AMD say Zen4 is "on track" for 2H 2022 release - though what's on track can easily run later. I think AMD would prefer a solid year between Zen3 refresh and Zen4 launch, not to annoy their own customers etc.

No you weren't hoping to see it sooner, you have no interest in anything AMD does, and don't pretend you do, you've built what, 3 systems in like 5 or 6 years? And one of those was an 11900K which you tired to tell everyone was going to be the best CPU EVARR!!! yet seems to be dumped into a 'media pc' at less than 12 months old.

Zen4 will be launched in Q3-Q4, not sure why Zen3D to Zen4 would annoy their own customers since you need an entire new platform just like you did for the RKL to ADL build, did Intel not annoy you?

Mesai · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:20

Journey said:
No you weren't hoping to see it sooner, you have no interest in anything AMD does, and don't pretend you do, you've built what, 3 systems in like 5 or 6 years? And one of those was an 11900K which you tired to tell everyone was going to be the best CPU EVARR!!! yet seems to be dumped into a 'media pc' at less than 12 months old.

Zen4 will be launched in Q3-Q4, not sure why Zen3D to Zen4 would annoy their own customers since you need an entire new platform just like you did for the RKL to ADL build, did Intel not annoy you?

I just assume he doesn't have heating in his building and that's why he sticks to Intel

timorous · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:22

Journey said:
No you weren't hoping to see it sooner, you have no interest in anything AMD does, and don't pretend you do, you've built what, 3 systems in like 5 or 6 years? And one of those was an 11900K which you tired to tell everyone was going to be the best CPU EVARR!!! yet seems to be dumped into a 'media pc' at less than 12 months old.

Zen4 will be launched in Q3-Q4, not sure why Zen3D to Zen4 would annoy their own customers since you need an entire new platform just like you did for the RKL to ADL build, did Intel not annoy you?

I don't get it either.

Zen 3D is a great option for people who are still on Zen 2k or Zen 3k parts. It gives their AM4 1 last hurrah before they need to switch platform, and a pretty decent one at that. For the people who upgrade to the latest and greatest then I expect them to wait for Zen 4 as they have probably already switched to Alder Lake.

ltron · 4 Jan 2022 at 16:22

Well that was disappointing. I suspect there are problems in terms of cost, yields and cooling if the 5800X3D is the only SKU (Ian Cutress was right). It seems I won't be upgrading my 3900X after all, it's puzzling because the prototype was supposedly based on a 5900X and not a 5800X.

Zen 4 5GHz all core sounds good though, hopefully that will work out in reality unlike this first attempt at Zen 3D (which I hope will greatly improve over time, it has the potential to be an amazing breakthrough if they can fix the problems).