Soldato
I think anyone knows what they were doing with the tweets
. Except humbug. I don't mind the hype creation but that doesn't mean it wasn't a let down. Which is all I really have to say on the subject...-
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I think anyone knows what they were doing with the tweets
. Except humbug. I don't mind the hype creation but that doesn't mean it wasn't a let down. Which is all I really have to say on the subject...
Good Grief......
Your disappointed because you made the mistake of reading into to what was never there, the hype there is that of your own in your own head, that doesn't make him on a hype fest, its just you. distinguish between your own head and reality.
And stop with the spelling Nazism. whats the point in it.
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Lol Rusty's posts do make me laugh 
I can't work out whether you just take anal to a whole new level or you just like to troll anything to do with AMD whilst pretending to be neutral.
Always a fun read though so please continue
I can't work out whether you just take anal to a whole new level or you just like to troll anything to do with AMD whilst pretending to be neutral.Always a fun read though so please continue
Caporegime
Lol Rusty's posts do make me laugh
Always a fun read though so please continue
Haha i have to say +1.
Soldato
It's not spelling, it's grammar... oh dear. You keep saying it wasn't there but what of the other people on the other pages on just this thread alone? That's rhetorical, no need to answer in case you can't work it out.
Lol Rusty's posts do make me laugh
Always a fun read though so please continue
Well I have crossfire 7950s and I'm very happy with them I might add. I don't get the whole tribalism between AMD and nVidia to be honest, I find it a bit odd. So I guess that just leaves me being anal. I'll take that
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Caporegime
Soldato
Quote rape
Soldato
Roy is English. He left nVidia because he had reached a peak there, was running out of challenges and AFAIK wasn't that chuffed with the way things were going with Tegra.
He and John Byrne (now Roy's boss at AMD) are the guys who introduced nVidia to Europe. Roy later joined nVidia to run UK sales, the Northern Europe sales, then EMEA sales, then VP WW sales (at which point he emigrated o the US).
Whilst running the Tegra sales he saw an opportunity in the emerging auto-stereoscopic 3D display market so joined Master Image, followed by a brief spell in Rightware before finally returning to his roots in PC gaming hardware.
He will do great things for AMD and is not at all afraid of taking on the competition in e form of Intel and nVidia.
Hes got what AMD need right now but AMD need to get behind him, sometimes he comes off like a troll but I'm not sure that isn't just hes being let down by other people he works with failing to deliver.
Soldato
For the moaners and groaners about no 89 series news, Jarrastafari summed it up a few pages back:
The hype build up from AMD was for a variety of reasons, scare tactics, cat and mouse, plugging the new apus-which "Be Invincible" was aimed at, not the 89's.
This is for the frustrated ones(you know who you are):
I for one am delighted that it's looking like BF4 time for the 89's as that means the 79's are the main driver priority longer and will probably skip the 89's and get me a PS4!
I'm not sure why people are getting annoyed with AMD. They haven't deviated from their original announcement to keep the 7000 series stable through till Q3 2013. If they 7000 series is selling well they're not exactly going to mess with their own sales prospects by releasing another product in it's place.
I understand people want upgrades but your following rumored release dates/announcements and specs then not getting them and being disappointed. Seems like an exercise is futility to me.
The hype build up from AMD was for a variety of reasons, scare tactics, cat and mouse, plugging the new apus-which "Be Invincible" was aimed at, not the 89's.
This is for the frustrated ones(you know who you are):
I for one am delighted that it's looking like BF4 time for the 89's as that means the 79's are the main driver priority longer and will probably skip the 89's and get me a PS4!
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Soldato
I don't know if the 89 series will be on 28nm or 20nm, but I'm told it's not just a die revision or shrink of the 79 series. it's a completely new GPU design from the ground up, with enough changes to warrant calling the architecture GCN 2 or GCN+.
The design is completed and AMD don't feel the need to launch it right now as they have the fastest graphics card in the 7990, and the 7970 competes in a totally different price bracket to GTX780.
I imagine there's also some benefit in them waiting for the next gen consoles to go on sale and the developers getting their new titles out.
The design is completed and AMD don't feel the need to launch it right now as they have the fastest graphics card in the 7990, and the 7970 competes in a totally different price bracket to GTX780.
I imagine there's also some benefit in them waiting for the next gen consoles to go on sale and the developers getting their new titles out.
Caporegime
If it's called GCN2, it's not really completely new, it's just an improvement on the original.
Even if it wasn't called GCN2, we still know what it is.
It's very likely to be 28nm.
But as said, all it's doing is lengthening the 28nm era, with the time difference between the 7XX and 8XXX.
20nm shouldn't be too far away from the October launch (They could probably get 20nm GPU's out by Q2 2014) that's the problem. Unless AMD are about to release like 2 GPU generations in a 6 month time scale, it allows for Nvidia to be able to launch 20nm while there being a reasonable time passed from their 7XX (Not sure that they would though)
I don't know why more people aren't annoyed, it's just lengthening the time we have to wait for a proper performance gain.
I mean even now a 7970 at 1920x1080 won't be able to max everything.
Even if it wasn't called GCN2, we still know what it is.
It's very likely to be 28nm.
But as said, all it's doing is lengthening the 28nm era, with the time difference between the 7XX and 8XXX.
20nm shouldn't be too far away from the October launch (They could probably get 20nm GPU's out by Q2 2014) that's the problem. Unless AMD are about to release like 2 GPU generations in a 6 month time scale, it allows for Nvidia to be able to launch 20nm while there being a reasonable time passed from their 7XX (Not sure that they would though)
I don't know why more people aren't annoyed, it's just lengthening the time we have to wait for a proper performance gain.
I mean even now a 7970 at 1920x1080 won't be able to max everything.
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Soldato
We've left the days of massive performance gains from generation to generation behind IMHO. We're now entering a phase of incremental gains, mainly driven by improved process geometry.
The reality is that we don't need more GPU horsepower right now. All of the current generation of mid-high and top-end GPUs can drive the latest games at maximum settings at typical 1080 resolution. Of course it's always nice to have more so that those enthusiasts can run 1440/1600, 3D, multiscreen etc, but those few are the minority. Anyone with a GTX670/HD7950+ can run everything maxed in a typical setup, and anyone with a GTX660/HD7850 can max out most things.
It needs the new gen consoles launched with the developers pushing that hardware before the current crop of GPUs will show their age.
The reality is that we don't need more GPU horsepower right now. All of the current generation of mid-high and top-end GPUs can drive the latest games at maximum settings at typical 1080 resolution. Of course it's always nice to have more so that those enthusiasts can run 1440/1600, 3D, multiscreen etc, but those few are the minority. Anyone with a GTX670/HD7950+ can run everything maxed in a typical setup, and anyone with a GTX660/HD7850 can max out most things.
It needs the new gen consoles launched with the developers pushing that hardware before the current crop of GPUs will show their age.
Soldato
People need to add the caveat of what res they using when saying a gpu can run games at max. At 1440p my 670 will struggle with max settings.
Soldato
Soldato
You seem to have not read about what the actual concerns are with the lack of news. If you're going to make noises about a big announcement while implying it's along the GPU lines and then nothing comes along, it's just an excercise in... spamming as Jokester put it.
I've not necessarily got a problem with it but it will leave people thinking that they're just all words. A better thing to do would be to just take a step back from that and focus on what really matters: improving their image more so they're not viewed by the market as the inferior brand.
If its from TSMC they probably won't be 20nm for an October launch, supposedly they are fully tied up with production volume for ARM for most of this year, with Qualcomm and nvidia having dibs after that.
Caporegime
October 2014?
Caporegime
Have you tried maxing out Tomb Raider at 1920x1080 on a single 7970? It's not happening unless you like ~25FPS.