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AMD has console gaming in its pocket, but can it squeeze out Nvidia on the PC?

PhysicsMan94 said:
Very true. But it seems to be that some people on here despise nVidia to the point of wishing they would collapse...
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Those people need to step away from computing for a while, Go outside, Breath deep and realise there are more important things in life than hating a company that makes GPUs.
 
Amd need to be carfeul, they don't want to be seen as having a monopoly in 'gaming' if it turns out games play much,much better on their kit.
 
MonsterMoshi said:
Nvidia have annoyed me with the 7xx series cards just being rebrands of last years cards.
I will however be buying a new card before the year is out but I don't know where to go.
I have always planned of going with Nvidia just on the basis that they have always been well ahead of AMD on high end cards from everything I have read.

Now I feel I would be being ripped off by buying Titian for the ~5% gains but then screwed over if I brought a 780 seen as it is the same card but just artificially tuned down?
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If you are going on bang for buck there is not a huge difference between the GTX 780 and HD 7970. Below is part of the Heaven 4 scoreboard.

19. Score 1496, GPU 780 @1176/1612, CPU i7 950 @4.0, OCPete
20. Score 1470, GPU 780 @1166/1662, CPU 3820 @4.3, stephenb
21. Score 1445, GPU 780 @1012/1702, CPU i7 930 @2.8, esoteric
22. Score 1388, GPU 780 @941/1502, CPU 3770k @3.5, AStaley
23. Score 1304, GPU 780 @942/1509, CPU i7 930 @4.0, BriT
24. Score 1286, GPU 780 @863/1502, CPU 3570k @4.1, mcleish
25. Score 1259, GPU 780 @1010/1502, CPU 2500k @4.5, mrk
26. Score 1259, GPU 7970 @1500/1825, CPU 3770k @6.1, 8 Pack
27. Score 1169, GPU 7970 @1370/1850, CPU 3930k @5.0, Besty
28. Score 1161, GPU 7970 @1360/1900, CPU 2500k @4.9, StonerDude
29. Score 1145, GPU 7950 @1250/1250, CPU 2500k @4.4, chris-82
30. Score 1139, GPU 7970 @1325/1875, CPU 2700k @5.0, LtMatt
31. Score 1119, GPU 7970 @1310/1900, CPU i7 990x @4.45, BodgeITandRun
32. Score 1116, GPU 7970 @1300/1900, CPU 2500k @4.5, Uncle Petey
33. Score 1100, GPU 7970 @1244/1875, CPU 3820 @5.1, Nickolp1974
34. Score 1093, GPU 7970 @1275/1875, CPU 3970X @4.9, Kaapstad
35. Score 1090, GPU 7970 @1254/1800, CPU 2500k @5.0, Mike306


In the table above people are using HD 7970s like this

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-293-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-181-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938

And here is a ref GTX 780 to compare

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-013-IN&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1341

Compared to a Titan, the GTX 780 is actually tuned up (Higher clocks bring it to within 5% of the Titan).

The GTX 770 may be a reworked GTX 680, but again, value for money they are pretty good.

When you are gaming, the game does not care if it is last years model rebranded, it's all about performance.
 
pgi947 said:
The one thing amd will gain over nvidia is brand recognition.
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This really, the margins on the consoles are so low AMD will not be making any money off them (IIRC Sony/MS usually sell at a loss for the first few years to try and bag users) they are basically using the consoles as a marketing tool not a revenue generator.
 
Nvidia will not be going anywhere, and it would be very bad if they did.

ubersonic said:
This really, the margins on the consoles are so low AMD will not be making any money off them (IIRC Sony/MS usually sell at a loss for the first few years to try and bag users) they are basically using the consoles as a marketing tool not a revenue generator.
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Actually the xBox Next deal alone is worth $3bn to them.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/APU-Trinity-Xbox-One-Bob-Feldstein-Radeon,22803.html

The PS4 deal will be worth at least that again.

This is nothing like the xBox360 deal which was cheap IP only, as it was with the PS3 + Nvidia.
AMD are actually making and providing the chips, and continuing support.

It will increase AMD's revenue by 50% at least.
 
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ubersonic said:
This really, the margins on the consoles are so low AMD will not be making any money off them (IIRC Sony/MS usually sell at a loss for the first few years to try and bag users) they are basically using the consoles as a marketing tool not a revenue generator.
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Living in fantasy land. They're not going to not make any money off it.

Just because Sony and MS have sold consoles at a loss, doesn't mean those involved in the production don't make a profit.

It also won't act as a marketing tool for brand recognition unless AMD are proactive about it and push their brand with marketing.
 
The Running Man said:
Ati drivers could scupper the plan
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Nothing wrong with the drivers. And Nvidia not doing well lately with driver either just look at this forum and other to see.

This all you could come up with? Am sorry but this driver debate is growing old and if anything amd are producing better drivers this gen.
 
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