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AMD moving to a LGA CPU socket.

No more bent CPU pins and ripping the CPU out of the socket I guess.

Always get nervous with Intels CPUs though as I dont want to drop in into the motherboard socket. :eek:
 
chroniclard said:
Does this affect anything?
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Yes, the CPUs are more robust but the motherboard socket is more fragile!
Thing with AM5 going up a rumoured 1,700 contacts they had to go LGA.
Any cheap CPU dropping tweezers around to make dropping chips into LGA sockets less scary?
Maybe something 3D printed but searching only finds me those Intel IHS de-capping tools.
 
it'll probably come like TR in a cassette, makes installing a doddle, though signiifcantly less pins so perhaps it might add too much cost.
 
chroniclard said:
Does this affect anything?
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Likely slightly increase the cost of motherboards, but arguably better to make the more expensive component (CPU) harder to damage


G J said:
Always get nervous with Intels CPUs though as I dont want to drop in into the motherboard socket. :eek:
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KompuKare said:
Any cheap CPU dropping tweezers around to make dropping chips into LGA sockets less scary?
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Not sure why it's scary - I've replaced dozens of 775/771/1366/1155/2011/etc CPUs and never managed to drop the CPU into the socket, or otherwise bend a pin.
If it helps, hold it with two hands, gripping on all 4 sides (between thumbs and finger), and then line it up over the socket, and then slowly lower it down.
 
Armageus said:
Not sure why it's scary - I've replaced dozens of 775/771/1366/1155/2011/etc CPUs and never managed to drop the CPU into the socket, or otherwise bend a pin.
If it helps, hold it with two hands, gripping on all 4 sides (between thumbs and finger), and then line it up over the socket, and then slowly lower it down.
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Well haven't damaged any yet but from from your description the best advice is to fit the CPU before putting the board in the case. Think I've only removed / replaced CPUs in-situ in a case when they were the cheap LGA775 Celerons and Pentium where I wasn't too worried.
 
KompuKare said:
Well haven't damaged any yet but from from your description the best advice is to fit the CPU before putting the board in the case. Think I've only removed / replaced CPUs in-situ in a case when they were the cheap LGA775 Celerons and Pentium where I wasn't too worried.
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Certainly easier to do when the board is out of the case, but still easy enough as long as your case is relatively tidy
 
Its a good thing, never damaged either but was surprisingly nervous first time dealing with ryzen, lets hope the retention system is good AM socket was junk in that regard
 
Hearing this news has piqued my interest in going with an AMD CPU in the next couple of years.

I bent a pin and it snapped off on a 3400XP once. And trying to get a heat sink off was always a pain.

I've never had anyway issues while using Intel chips and fitting them in or out of a board.
 
building a pc is relatively easy - the only horrendous bit I have always thought (and surprised case manufacturers havent thought of a way round this - the front panel pins ( power, reset and ...cant think what third thing is now, edit - power led) - surely some adaptor would work that fit all the pins together and the adaptor then goes on the board in one?

Would surely be very cheap to make too (ie pence) - always found this frustratingly hard (probably not helped by my terrible eyesight)
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Bent motherboard pins are much harder to straighten
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True, but if I have to choose I'd rather damage a £200-300 motherboard than a ~£1,000 CPU. My TR is LGA already, and I've always preferred LGA before. Spent too much time messing with credit cards, an optician's screwdriver and tweezers in the Athlon days. :p
 
Has there been any further news on a 6000 series zen3+ for the last AM4 chip. Or are we jumping to AM5? I feel like I remember reading something about that but can't find anything solid. Just been considering swapping my 2600 for a 5800X (B450 board so need a bios flash but it'll work). I was considering waiting for Zex4/AM5 if that is the next set of chips.
 
Userguy1 said:
Has there been any further news on a 6000 series zen3+ for the last AM4 chip. Or are we jumping to AM5? I feel like I remember reading something about that but can't find anything solid. Just been considering swapping my 2600 for a 5800X (B450 board so need a bios flash but it'll work). I was considering waiting for Zex4/AM5 if that is the next set of chips.
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Possibly updated Zen3 with L3 cache dies stacked directly over CCD die.
https://www.extremetech.com/computi...cked-ryzen-9-5900x-192mb-of-l3-cache-at-2tb-s

DDR5 has for now issues with horribly high latency, so really wouldn't wonder if AMD ends up bringing AM5 out end of 22-winter 23.
(for gaming performance of CPU memory latency is very important factor)
 
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