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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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RT isn't becoming overnight a big deal for most people.

Most people didn't buy a RTX GPU even when given the chance.

Most people are still using older or non-RT cards, and aren't that bothered about RT in the near term.

I would imagine many of us are more than happy to wait for a time when RT is cheap and used well, before making RT a factor in our purchase decisions.

Tbh, I wouldn't have been at all bothered if there was no RT at all in Ps5/XSX.
 
Twinz said:
If this is the case, it will be interesting to see how much RT is actually worth to the masses. The 2080Ti's performance should have come in at the 1080Ti's price point, but Nvidia jacked up the price "because ray tracing."
If AMD can match a given Nvidia skew on rasterized performance and cut them off at the knees on price, I will be happy to buy the AMD card. (For a decent upgrade over my 1080ti)

In fact, if AMD offered 2080Ti performance at $650 *but no ray tracing* two years ago, Nvidia could have bragged about ray tracing all they wanted, but they would not have sold many $1200 2080Ti's.
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I agree there if amd had provided a 2080ti no rt solution with navi 1 they would have made a killing, even at £900

Like wise if nvidia had brought out a 2080ti with no RT for 850 ish they would have done well too. Maybe called it the 1680ti
 
Illuminist said:
I agree there if amd had provided a 2080ti no rt solution with navi 1 they would have made a killing, even at £900

Like wise if nvidia had brought out a 2080ti with no RT for 850 ish they would have done well too. Maybe called it the 1680ti
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Generational progress should have provided at least 30% over the 1080 Ti *at the same price point* (maybe a little more for inflation). $850 would have been meh. $650 would have been "good".
 
Twinz said:
Generational progress should have provided at least 30% over the 1080 Ti *at the same price point* (maybe a little more for inflation). $850 would have been meh. $650 would have been "good".
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+1 What is it with people off their own bat adding £/$100 to new generation cards? Since the 2080ti added another £300-500 are we all going to assume each future generation should bump up that much in price because we're all too daft to recognise what's going on and how we're being screwed?
 
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Jacky60 said:
+1 What is it with people off their own back adding £/$100 to new generation cards? Since the 2080ti added another £300-500 are we all going to assume each future generation should bump up that much in price because we're all too daft to recognise what's going on and how we're being screwed?
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Yea, I frankly find it somewhat bizarre.
 
Jacky60 said:
+1 What is it with people off their own back adding £/$100 to new generation cards? Since the 2080ti added another £300-500 are we all going to assume each future generation should bump up that much in price because we're all too daft to recognise what's going on and how we're being screwed?
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its nvidia they will screw us anyway. people are just predicting. some of those will predict & just buy a 2080TI because they think the 3080TI is not worth it.

we just need better competition is uktra highend to kick Nvidia to the side & rethink there RND cost strats.

Right now NVIDIA does care too much about Gaming Market when they can sell to Data-centers/AI at 200-300% costs.

what with lockdown to Companies are buying Qaudro & TELSA left right & center to allow users to WFH & be productive
 
FoxEye said:
RT isn't becoming overnight a big deal for most people.

Most people didn't buy a RTX GPU even when given the chance.

Most people are still using older or non-RT cards, and aren't that bothered about RT in the near term.

I would imagine many of us are more than happy to wait for a time when RT is cheap and used well, before making RT a factor in our purchase decisions.

Tbh, I wouldn't have been at all bothered if there was no RT at all in Ps5/XSX.
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Most people didn't bought a RTX card because it was expensive. If the RTX2060 would have been $249 and 2080ti $599, with DLSS actually working properly (like is in v2.0) and easy to implement, then RT probably would have known a wider recognition and spread.
 
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Calin Banc said:
Most people didn't bought a RTX card because it was expensive. If the RTX2060 would have been $249 and 2080ti $599, with DLSS actually working properly (like is in v2.0) and easy to implement, then RT probably would have known a wider recognition and spread.
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Dont mention DLSS not working... (theres a whole thread on people getting fed up of it ;) )
 
I recon AMD’s top end GPU will be around 3080Ti performance and cost £1999 and the 3080Ti will cost £2499.

Just predicting lads... :p

If they come in at £500 cheaper than the above we will all get super surprised and sing both their praises! Would be bargain no?

As I say, kind of bizarre :D
 
TNA said:
I recon AMD’s top end GPU will be around 3080Ti performance and cost £1999 and the 3080Ti will cost £2499.

Just predicting lads... :p

If they come in at £500 cheaper than the above we will all get super surprised and sing both their praises! Would be bargain no?

As I say, kind of bizarre :D
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Take 1000 off and I would agree
 
TNA said:
Even that is not enough imo if I am being honest. Essentially you are saying 3080Ti should be £1500 which is way too much. Both cards should be no more than a three figure sum.
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Exactly this and really they should be nearer £699 NOT £999!
 
chris85oc said:
The Xseries X and PS5 RT won't even get close to a 2080ti. We already have a comparison in RT performance in case you guys forgot. X series X ran Minecraft RT at only 1080p 30 fps (and XsX gpu is stronger than ps5s), which is way worse than a 2080ti. Even assuming non final code, optimizations won't make it magically gain that much more. It's most likely around 2070 performance tops.
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Source on this. The only info I found was from digital foundry who said the 30 fps video they were given was encoded from a higher framerate source
 
JediFragger said:
True, and I even had one!! Not til they dropped a fair bit though :D
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Yea, got mine for £340 about a year after it was released :D

When Crossfire worked it was one of the best cards money could buy as I recall at the time, when it worked, which was not often :p
 
TNA said:
Yea, got mine for £340 about a year after it was released :D

When Crossfire worked it was one of the best cards money could buy as I recall at the time, when it worked, which was not often :p
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It was epic, then Crossfire seemed to go crap all at once. Switched to 980Ti SLi and that was epic and then the same thing happened to that. Sold both and got a 1080, pretty much been single card + adaptive sync monitor since.
 
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