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AMD on the road to recovery.

I have noticed that ^^^^ both your points.

I did read, HPE (Hewlett Packard Enterprise) have started advising people to buy EPYC, i can't remember if it was specifically instead of Xeon, but it was certainly significant. i lost the bloody link and i can't find it on google.

And not just Intel, these people are citing AMD's strength against, a lot of these are also based on what they have seen in these meetings in regards to competition against nVidia, which is encouraging.
 
Do folks still believe that?
Some time ago I was bearish on AMD but that changed last year.
AMD is the new Bitcoin :p (180% since April is quite substantial)......lets hope it doesn't crash back down :). Seriously, I think they have good times ahead though. A correction will no doubt happen but that is unlikely to spell an end to their fortunes.

Its 1500% (thereabouts) in 2 years :D

The reason for this hike is because all the analysts have been to see AMD and knowing something we don't have all re-evaluated their price targets to $40. its the same analysts that previously had them at $5
Prior to about 2006 AMD were trading at around $40, these analysts think AMD's outlook is about as good now as it was in the Athlon days when they were trading at about $45.
These number are simply AMD getting back to where they should be, the doom and gloom days are behind them, their value is normalising.
 
I don't know what the numbers are, but I'm pretty sure retail sales of CPUs are a very small fraction of CPU sales. The vast majority will go to OEMs.

That is true. tho i think if Intel lost even 30% of their OEM market share they would have problems.

AMD's OEM market share pre Ryzen was basically 0%, you would not find a single bulldozer system and even APU based system were extremely rare.

There are now multiple OEM systems across multiple brands with Ryzen CPU's.

In the short term Intel will always have the vastly higher market share, Intel themselves will make sure of that, back in the Athlon days Intel used to give their CPU's away for free and then ontop of that pay people like Dell $800m a year not to use AMD CPU's at all.

Intel will continue perhaps not in that vain but in other ways make it worth their while to stick with Intel, and that's fine, AMD are still selling a lot more CPU's to most of these people than they had in a decade and ultimately Intel will keep finding it more and more expensive failing this time to hold AMD out, if Intel keep having to in one way or another pay people to use their CPU's instead of AMD then ultimately Intel will lose in the long run because things have changed, it just isn't possible these days to lock AMD out entirely and whatever AMD sell to OEM's is a sale they previously did not have.

In short AMD cannot lose, its all Intel's to lose.
 
Room? Sure there is. Problem is that AMD isn't *in* that room to begin with, it doesn't have a product, and they are falling further behind on the software side by the day.

Fortunately, there's only so much ML workload around...most is still general purpose CPU, and AMD can do just fine in that market. It's just a shame they missed the boat in the AI space.

They are now.

Mosesmann notes that, until now, AMD had not meaningfully entered AI training and inference tech. AMD’s 7nm Radeon GPU is coming six to 12 months ahead of Nvidia’s 7nm product.


https://seekingalpha.com/news/33894...d-target-34-percent-upside-nvidia-competition
 
Nobody knows. We are going to speculation area here. Maybe the 7nm part in 12nm? That might explain 5 core CCX.

5 is an uneven number, a waste of die space, no one would ever do that, they would just use the space to add the sixth core.

My guess is the 7nm 16 core dies but with some cores either broken (salvaged parts) or deactivated, we will get the full fat 16 core dies with Ryzen 3000.
 
8 Integer units ^^^^

Assuming we do not go down the multi tiny chiplets like on last AdoredTv video about this subject.
i saw that video, i think he's wrong on that one, i think separating the Uncore from the cores is a rout AMD will go down but i think its too soon to do it right now, when they want to get past 100 cores yes but at this point there is a lot of room to grow in full chiplts yet.
 
Raymond James downgrades Intel on 10nm delay

Analyst Chris Caso: “Intel’s biggest strategic problem is their delay on 10nm production – we don’t expect a 10nm server chip from Intel for two years. 10nm delays create a window for competitors, and the window may never again close.”
In July, Intel said its 10nm chips would release for holiday 2019. AMD’s (NASDAQ:AMD) 7nm server chips, manufactured by TSMC (NYSE:TSM), will have a volume launch sometime next year.
Caso says that “Intel is standing still” but “TSMC isn’t” and that the delay will allow TSMC to become “firmly in the lead.”
Intel shares are down 1.8% to $46.09. AMD is up 1% to $32.94 and TSMC is down 0.9% to $44.50.
 
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