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AMD on the road to recovery.

subbytna said:
Lets all admit that if it wasn't for AMD, then INTEL would be still be shafting everyone with quad cores. To try and slap down AMD is a fallacy. We need competition to progress technology, or you end up with what INTEL have been doing since 2014...minimal progression. I love it. I prefer that AMD are now beating INTEL in the CPU area, means INTEL are having to actually get off their butts and do some work.
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Of course. Competition is good for us all.
But as scone has said, ryzen isn't the second coming of Christ as some people here would have you believe. I've used a 1700 and a 1300x, still have them in fact and they are "ok" Nothing special imo. Just cheap.
The best part about this whole ryzen launch are the fanboys that go round spouting crap that just isn't true lol. But yes, thanks AMD for giving Intel a kick up it's backside. However it's not been a hard enough kick as the prices still haven't changed.
 
It’s nice to have AMD back and I’ve gone with them on my latest build 1600 and now a 2700x. I don’t think they will match Intel for pure clock speed and I don’t think they will even try.

It’s been 4 core for as long as I can remember and suddenly we are seeing 6 core and 8 core being the norm which is purely down to AMD releasing a good Ryzen.
 
gavinh87 said:
Of course. Competition is good for us all.
But as scone has said, ryzen isn't the second coming of Christ as some people here would have you believe. I've used a 1700 and a 1300x, still have them in fact and they are "ok" Nothing special imo. Just cheap.
The best part about this whole ryzen launch are the fanboys that go round spouting crap that just isn't true lol. But yes, thanks AMD for giving Intel a kick up it's backside. However it's not been a hard enough kick as the prices still haven't changed.
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Prices have changed.
What crap is spouted? :D
 
gavinh87 said:
Nowhere near enough imo.
Just look in any of the ryzen threads lol. Plenty of bs floating about.
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The only ones who I would blame for the stagnant situation, are the overpaid and overvalued software developers. Who bring bad applications which don't utilise properly the hardware given to them. We should have very long time ago gone to 4K everything and Full HD forgotten, or used in cheap phones.
 
Joeyuk said:
It’s been 4 core for as long as I can remember and suddenly we are seeing 6 core and 8 core being the norm which is purely down to AMD releasing a good Ryzen.
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There were 6 and 8 core CPUs before Ryzen, or are you saying that the release of Ryzen prompted Intel to push them more into the mainstream market?
 
gavinh87 said:
This is what I mean by not a big enough kick. If they really were feeling AMDs pinch, then we should be seeing both.
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True true, but perhaps Intel are relying right now on mindshare to avoid doing both. Matching core count with their superior technology is probably enough to keep their customer base. Perhaps only if they see a big swing towards Ryzen despite matching cores will we see Intel drop prices too.
 
i think amd will catch out nvidia next like it did with intel. 7nm will not be a huge smash like ryzen was to intel, but think AMD will be able to get out high speeds, lower power and cheaper chips to AIB then Nvidia . Just needs to be a chip and slowly a crack could form - but looks like nvidia isn't intel and would counter better - which is all good at the end of the day
 
dirty said:
...the release of Ryzen prompted Intel to push them more into the mainstream market?
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This. Nehalem i7 970 and 980X were high-end CPUs to exercise Intel's design muscle, but they have always stuck to the quad core model for mainstream products. AMD may have had 6 and 8 core models for a long time, but they were never within Intel's performance envelope. It's only with Ryzen, and arguably Ryzen 2xxx, have AMD come close enough to Intel at the mainstream level for them to take notice and smash out the 8700K and 9000 to match core counts.

HEDT is a different matter and I think it's fair to say Threadripper have scared the bejesus out of Intel.
 
dirty said:
There were 6 and 8 core CPUs before Ryzen, or are you saying that the release of Ryzen prompted Intel to push them more into the mainstream market?
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Yeah I think Ryzen turning out to be a good chip had forced Intel to push 6 and maybe 8 core into the mainstream. From now on I see the i7 range being at least 6 cores and maybe 8.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
i think amd will catch out nvidia next like it did with intel. 7nm will not be a huge smash like ryzen was to intel, but think AMD will be able to get out high speeds, lower power and cheaper chips to AIB then Nvidia . Just needs to be a chip and slowly a crack could form - but looks like nvidia isn't intel and would counter better - which is all good at the end of the day
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Intel maybe, nvidia not a chance. They are light years ahead.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
i think i theory intel had a bigger jump then Nvidia over AMD in last ten years ? hopefully AMD can surprise
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Amd have been producing gpu's with a fraction of the budget that nvidia has for the last lot of years, given how well ryzen has been received i would hope some of that revenue gets funneled to the gpu division.
 
Gerard said:
Amd have been producing gpu's with a fraction of the budget that nvidia has for the last lot of years, given how well ryzen has been received i would hope some of that revenue gets funneled to the gpu division.
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This is the hope and Lisa Su said as much a year or so ago.

AMD have gotten their CPU house in order so while they will still need to keep at it with Ryzen they are now in a position to give RTG back some of the resources it lost when they were being diverted to Ryzen over the last few years.
 
gavinh87 said:
Intel maybe, nvidia not a chance. They are light years ahead.
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Intel was a decade ahead of AMD. The latter had no CPU to compete at any segment except APU since 2007.

Nvidia is just a year ahead of AMD in DX11 ONLY due to Titan X and 1080Ti. Anything bellow that AMD has the better products.
While AMD is ahead on innovation when comes to Vulcan and DX12 APIs.

And yet I do not remembering you, calling Nvidia doomed when for 6 years on the trot were beaten by AMD in price and performance even on top range products.
And AMD domination back then was total across all segments. Nvidia now has only a halo product that AMD doesn't have.
 
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