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AMD on the road to recovery.

January 2022 Steam Survey
https://www.techspot.com/news/93286-january-steam-survey-sees-amd-cpus-bounce-back.html

This months Steam survey sees AMD CPUs bounce back pushing its overall share to 30.96%.
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When is the next Jon Peddie report due?

I wouldn't be surprised if AMD is down to 15% now. So it's all very well to have a healthy increase in R&D but if they cannot get wafers to supply the market, what good does it do?

RNDA2 is the first time in years where they competing in performance at the top of market (the "halo" effect) but supply has been far too low.

Those consoles with their insatiable appetite for wafers seem to have ruined any chance of decent Radeon supplies.

I hope that as well as all high-end R&D they also come up with a strategy to do something with older nodes. Even GF 12nm would be fine for lowered Zen3 APUs or something kind of RNDA2 chip. On cheaper, older notes invest more in cache to make up some of the perf/watt deficit 12nm or worse brings.
 
Because steam has 120 million active monthly users.

I’m sure they will sell a lot of steam decks but not enough to start impacting the wider PC user base. Before you ask, yes I have a reservation and I’m not a hater, I just have realistic expectations.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Because steam has 120 million active monthly users.

I’m sure they will sell a lot of steam decks but not enough to start impacting the wider PC user base. Before you ask, yes I have a reservation and I’m not a hater, I just have realistic expectations.
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I don't see why that matters, they could have a bazillion users the Steam Deck will make up a proportion of that market, the question is what will that proportion be? If its successful it will make a dent, if not then no.

However, i have just realised that slide is for "Windows" so its not going to have any effect on it, which also makes it useless as a measure of market share as it doesn't include Linux and Consoles.
 
Of course it matters, putting aside that those numbers are for windows, even if they were for the whole user base, for the steam deck to make a big impact on what hardware people are running, they need to sell lots of them.

As I said, steam has 120 million active users each month, nearly all of those will be on windows. For the steam deck to have a big impact, it needs to start selling by the million, that just isn’t going to happen. Even a million units is a rounding error on their monthly active stats.

Like I said, I’m not a hater, just realistic. I’m sure the steam deck will have some initial success with enthusiasts but I can’t see it going mainstream in its current form.

Windows gaming on Linux is just a bit hacky and not a great experience. It’s the software that’s the key for this device, not the hardware. To get good software support for games out of the box, it needs developers to do the legwork on games and not valve. If a game has native support, it’s great but few of the biggest games actually do.

The hardware previous released yesterday had quite a few red flags on the software side and they were deliberately now showing them. I wouldn’t suggest any of my non enthusiast mates get one unless they only wanted to play games on the fairly narrow fully supported list for now.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Of course it matters, putting aside that those numbers are for windows, even if they were for the whole user base, for the steam deck to make a big impact on what hardware people are running, they need to sell lots of them.

As I said, steam has 120 million active users each month, nearly all of those will be on windows. For the steam deck to have a big impact, it needs to start selling by the million, that just isn’t going to happen. Even a million units is a rounding error on their monthly active stats.

Like I said, I’m not a hater, just realistic. I’m sure the steam deck will have some initial success with enthusiasts but I can’t see it going mainstream in its current form.

Windows gaming on Linux is just a bit hacky and not a great experience. It’s the software that’s the key for this device, not the hardware. To get good software support for games out of the box, it needs developers to do the legwork on games and not valve. If a game has native support, it’s great but few of the biggest games actually do.

The hardware previous released yesterday had quite a few red flags on the software side and they were deliberately now showing them. I wouldn’t suggest any of my non enthusiast mates get one unless they only wanted to play games on the fairly narrow fully supported list for now.
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Yes, the Steam Deck will not show up on this chart, that's what i said.

As off December 2021 XBox Series X / S and PS5 sales stood at 45 Million, add that to 51 Million XBox One sales and 117 Million PS4 sales for a total of 213 Million AMD powered devices that are also not included.
 
Talk about missing the point completely… I don’t even know how to respond.

My Tesla is powered by Intel and my Switch is powered by Nvidia but it doesn’t show up on the steam stats either.

The point is, the Steam Deck will have a negligible impact on AMDs revenue or steams install base because it’s a very much niche product for enthusiasts.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Talk about missing the point completely… I don’t even know how to respond.

My Tesla is powered by Intel and my Switch is powered by Nvidia but it doesn’t show up on the steam stats either.

The point is, the Steam Deck will have a negligible impact on AMDs revenue or steams install base because it’s a very much niche product for enthusiasts.
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In regards to what is relevant to this thread i think its important, looking at AMD market share from a perspective of Windows devices only gives you entirely the wrong perspective of AMD's X86 market share, IE that they are tiny insignificant cog in the machine.

And i'll tell you why it matters, Intel use this chart to peacock their X86 marketshare prowess constantly.
 
it’s also irrelevant because all that matter is the money. It’s also irrelevant to the question I was responding to which is the Steam deck is a rounding error in the real world no matter how good of a product it is.
 
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