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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

Much better to compare off the shelf to off the shelf, ignoring stock clocks. Max overclock comparisons are valid, but stock clocks are pointless when you can buy factory OC cards cheaper than stock. So no, you are just plain wrong.
 
What has this got to do with Polaris or Vega??

The GTX980TI and Fury X are now rendered obsolete by the GTX1080 and the GTX1070. Polaris 10 renders the R9 390X and GTX970 obsolete too,even if it is R9 390X level, and even the Fury and Fury Nano.

D.P. said:
And that is all expected given the new process and.prior tumours. In fact I heard 50w before.

AMD will definitely be ahead of nvidia in this segment though
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It will be interesting to see how the GP106 does. From what we have seen of Polaris 10 and Polaris 11,the GP106 looks a halfway point in die size.
 
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D.P. said:
Much better to compare off the shelf to off the shelf, ignoring stock clocks. Max overclock comparisons are valid, but stock clocks are pointless when you can buy factory OC cards cheaper than stock. So no, you are just plain wrong.
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those benchmarks aren't off the shelf though, that is the entire point, they are a non reference card with higher clocks that was then further overclocked and that was compared against a reference card that wasn't overclocked at all. The card involved isn't the cheapest one available.

Also explain why the Titan X superclocked costs more than the Titan X stock cards? Of all cards produced in the past decade, overclocked cards cost more than stock clock reference cards. Nvidia people in the past couple of years randomly decided that a stock cooled 'reference' 980ti was worth more with the Titan X cooler and started to pay more for it.

390/390x/Fury, all of them an overclocked version costs more than a stock clocked version... so no, you are just plain wrong.

There is literally a single exception in 15 years of graphics cards of 'stock' cards being more expensive.
 
Well I've seen some crap in my time but some of you lot take the biscuit. I posted some info about the P10 and P11 as no-one has heard much and it seems to have started you all off again. LOL :p

I see the words "Smashed" and then "Titan X Killer" being thrown around by people who should be old enough to know better. Some of you Nvidia users really do take anything positive in the AMD camp way too personally as if it is your lifelong obsession to bury AMD once and for all.

When any news that is remotely positive pops up in AMD land you keep regurgitating stuff that was argued and discussed months and even years ago...Please give it a rest as it's getting really boring.

Lets discuss the new cards in a reasonable manner and compare like for like shall we. This BS about comparing stock against OC'ed units is complete crap...just coz they cost the same as someone selling the stock units. You either compare the prices or you compare stock to stock or OC'ed to OC'ed otherwise its complete lunacy.

Lets grow up shall we FFS!! :(

Okay late night rant over....time for ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's :o
 
DM - the reference stock,closed of the 980ti is 1000MHz, 1075 boost. Go look at the cheapest 980ti cards sold by OCUK. This is what you see:
1051/1140
1178/1279
1102/1190
1152/1241
1216/1317
1152/1241
1178/1279
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Nope, I'm going to have to pay a lot extra to get a reference clocked card and for £10 over the absolute cheapest card I can't get a card 22% faster than reference.

Reference clocks are meaningless when you buy a factory over locked card 20% faster as one if the cheapest available cards
 
I am going to keep repeating the last post with leaked information repeatedly until all this stupid bickering about the GTX980TI vs the Fury X stops.

Nobody cares about these obsolete £500 cards anymore with their ancient 28NM GPUs.

maonayze said:
Just been meandering around the Pascal threads and spotted a post that is claiming that a leak of info states that the Gigabyte version of the 1080 (GTX 1080 Gaming G1) can reach up to 2.4Ghz.

Now that is fairly impressive, especially if they do come in @ $599 and not $699.

Now before you all flame me for coming into an AMD thread and saying this....please read on...

What some of those posters in the Pascal thread either didnt mention, didn't see or just completely ignored (take your pick)....was the info on the R9 470X that was below it (Actually the Headline of the actual piece was about the 470X NOT the 1080). Oh this was translated from Chinese so bear with it.

IT Home News May 13 message, just IT House exposure of the public version of the GTX overclocking 1080 , I believe many people have been core frequency of 2114MHz GTX sturdy performance of 1080 scared, but the latest news is that Gigabyte non-public version of the card is the GTX 1080 Gaming G1 core frequency can reach 2.4Ghz, compared to the public version of the top 13% frequency increase again.
Of course GTX 1080 5399 Yuan high price is not the average consumer can afford, we still tend to choose more graphics thousand or so, AMD is currently a low-end graphics card Radeon R9 470X exposure, alleged that the card uses the new Polaris 11 architecture, TDP of only 60W, that is to say no external auxiliary power supply to normal operation.
AMD R9 470X exposure: TDP is only 60W
It is reported that, R9 470X will use 1280 stream processors, 1GHz core frequency, 80 texture units, 40 raster units, the use of 4GB GDDR5 memory, memory frequency 7Ghz, memory interface is 128Bits, 112GB / S memory bandwidth .
The graphics performance is expected between R9 380 to R9 380X, as for the price, about 1,100 yuan, will be released in the second quarter of this year. I believe that focusing on power players, R9 470X is a good choice.
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So we have the R9 470X with roughly equivalent performance between 380/380X and this comes in at 60W TDP with no power connectors so powered through the PCIe bus for 1,100 Yuan (Yes, I did the exchange rate for you) = £117 (Not sure if this is without taxes/Vat or whatever though). Not bad performance per £ considering the current 380/X is still selling on OCUK for between £158.99 - £199.99 and needs minimum 2x 6pin power connector.

Link is here http://www.ithome.com/html/digi/225244.htm

also more interesting info here on P10/P11 http://videocardz.com/59903/possible-polaris-10-and-polaris-11-specifications-emerge

Oh and just to let you know the exchange rate on the GTX1080 came in at approx £575
:)
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D.P. said:
I [osted the link in the pascal thread, I saw the 470 in the article but didn't post anything because:
A) It was a pascl thread
B) I don't read Chinese and wasn't sure what is was saying exactly
C) What it seem to be saying is allow the same lines as the rest of the rumours. 470 at 380-380X speed is what has been speculated for weeks now.
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Missed this....

Okay to answer your points

1) It's never stopped you posting Nvidia stuff in the AMD threads ;)
2) I dont read chinese either but there is an easy to use translate button (in case you didnt know) ;)
3) So if the 470 is going to be at 380-380X speeds then would you say maybe the 480 is going to be at least 390-390X speeds...and maybe the 490 is going to be somewhere in the Fury X/980Ti Ballpark...maybe.

:)
 
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Don't get why some people go out of their way to constantly try and bury AMD. Makes no sense, as when they are gone Nvidia will upgrade from their current 6 inch ***** which they are using on us to a 12 inch one. That will be painful to all of us :eek:

Sometimes I wonder if some don't get this or are they just nvidia shills :(

As AMD have targeted mainstream and won't be releasing anything to match or beat the 980Ti, I will be going for a 1070. But you won't catch me going out of my way to bash AMD over and over pointlessly. The more AMD negative posts that spread, more people will read and just go nvidia even when at times that is not the best choice, e.g. 970 and 390.
 
I' m interested in the Vega early launch rumor. If its true AMD can dominate the market for at least half a year as Nvidia stated that even the P100 won't be out in mass until 2017.

Its still a rumor tho, but as i've seen no one brought this up yet.
 
GFX-Kid said:
Don't get why some people go out of their way to constantly try and bury AMD. Makes no sense, as when they are gone Nvidia will upgrade from their current 6 inch ***** which they are using on us to a 12 inch one. That will be painful to all of us :eek:

Sometimes I wonder if some don't get this or are they just nvidia shills :(

As AMD have targeted mainstream and won't be releasing anything to match or beat the 980Ti, I will be going for a 1070. But you won't catch me going out of my way to bash AMD over and over pointlessly. The more AMD negative posts that spread, more people will read and just go nvidia even when at times that is not the best choice, e.g. 970 and 390.
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your post was quite AMD-bashing in itself though...
 
sam77 said:
your post was quite AMD-bashing in itself though...
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Please show me where I bash AMD over and over? Me saying I am getting a 1070 is not bashing AMD. They just happened to target a part of the market this time that I am not a part of. Though I know a few people who are which are looking to upgrade this year and if priced right, I will recommend Polaris to them.

If Polaris is priced right, it could be a big win for them and I hope it is, as we need as close to 50-50 market share between AMD and Nvidia as possible in my opinion.
 
Mtom said:
I' m interested in the Vega early launch rumor. If its true AMD can dominate the market for at least half a year as Nvidia stated that even the P100 won't be out in mass until 2017.

Its still a rumor tho, but as i've seen no one brought this up yet.
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I read that AMD were forced to bring forward the Vega launch by 6 months. I don't see that as a good thing because if a product is meant to be launched 6 months later, bringing forward the date probably means something has to give. Or put it another way, why would you launch a product 6 months later if you could launch it early, you just wouldn't, especially in the technology sector and already losing out to your main competition

Rumours and speculation :D
 
DarrenM343 said:
I read that AMD were forced to bring forward the Vega launch by 6 months. I don't see that as a good thing because if a product is meant to be launched 6 months later, bringing forward the date probably means something has to give. Or put it another way, why would you launch a product 6 months later if you could launch it early, you just wouldn't, especially in the technology sector and already losing out to your main competition

Rumours and speculation :D
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Isn't the 6 month rumour based of an old vague AMD chart. Depending whether you assume the chart label (the stated year) represents the 2016/2017 boundary or is a centred label in the middle of the year, it could be 6 months or less than 1/2 months change.
 
Wish the mods would sort this thread out, if you read the Pascal thread it's full of discussion on the product and rarely a mention of a competitor and no bickering

Seems their are certain vocal fans of nvidia who come into this thread regularly just to bash AMD and to derail the thread.

All I want to read is solid info and rumours on an AMD product not have to trawl through constant bickering back and forth and petty epeenery arguments etc

Seriously some of the worst offenders are adults, probably with kids and responsible jobs but they behave like children in here
 
SiDeards73 said:
Wish the mods would sort this thread out, if you read the Pascal thread it's full of discussion on the product and rarely a mention of a competitor and no bickering
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In the Pascal thread about 10-15 pages ago was a 4 page long discussion about Polaris and some bashing. Now it's a price discussion and synthethic 'leaked' benches for 8 pages. Nothing new in both threads.
 
SiDeards73 said:
Wish the mods would sort this thread out, if you read the Pascal thread it's full of discussion on the product and rarely a mention of a competitor and no bickering

Seems their are certain vocal fans of nvidia who come into this thread regularly just to bash AMD and to derail the thread.

All I want to read is solid info and rumours on an AMD product not have to trawl through constant bickering back and forth and petty epeenery arguments etc

Seriously some of the worst offenders are adults, probably with kids and responsible jobs but they behave like children in here
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It really is pathetic isnt it, I cringe so hard when reading some of the stuff I dont know why I keep coming in, I suppose its just in the hope of reading some solid news but its rare and hard to find in the constant petty and very very sad drivel
 
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