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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

If the 8GB version comes in under £200 ill get 2. It won't be a massive upgrade from my 2 x 290's reference cards but i'm hoping for some big improvements in heat and noise!
 
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mahius said:
As I said in the other thread... I don't see what the fuss is about. It seems I predicted it (yeah the post was a few hours befoe, but this is what I've been on for the past month or so):

mahius said:
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A £160-200 Polaris for 390/970 performance is what I expected if I'm honest. Now if they could surpass those expectations...
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Your prediction was that it would be 390/970 performance, but the results put if closer to R9 Nano - AIB OC 980 results. If these results are correct you are out by ~20%, so hardly an accurate prediction is it?
 
Steampunk said:
Unless Nvidia just cut their prices.



But how many of those 337 million are going to be used for gaming? AMD is just banking on the idea that VR will become a mainstream app, and everyone and his grandma will want to buy a cheap, powerful Polaris to drive it - along with the hundreds they will have to spend on the VR goggles. That seems like a bit of a stretch to me.
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VR is a growing market which amd adress with the 480.

Nvidia has no answer to the price nor performance and see them drop price on the 1070 is unlikely.

Its also likely we see a 250$ card with the 480 that OC so one would go, dont need anything else until Big vega. :D
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
AMD Themselves said that in their Ashes test they only had about 51% scaling, and the leaked graph up top also shows very bad scaling. Most likely due to very immature drivers; as CF usually scales very well( when it's working in a new title ).
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They didn't say scaling at all, they said utilisation, which is a very different thing. Both gpu's running at 100% utilisation and providing a 50% performance improvement over a single card is 50% scaling. Both gpus running at 50% utilisation means neither is under full load. Is that because of a tdp limit, because lets say the card has a 200W tdp vs 150W tdp of a single card, but you can whack power level to +50% and that takes utilisation to 100% and gain 50% more performance, who knows.

But plainly they said 51% utilisation, not scaling.
 
drunkenmaster said:
They didn't say scaling at all, they said utilisation, which is a very different thing. Both gpu's running at 100% utilisation and providing a 50% performance improvement over a single card is 50% scaling. Both gpus running at 50% utilisation means neither is under full load. Is that because of a tdp limit, because lets say the card has a 200W tdp vs 150W tdp of a single card, but you can whack power level to +50% and that takes utilisation to 100% and gain 50% more performance, who knows.

But plainly they said 51% utilisation, not scaling.
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51fps frame lock XD, but could be power based.
 
Seems like an incredibly vague and dodgy way to indicate performance! They are obsessed with AOTS which no one i know plays. Why can't they just show the relative gaming performance like Nvidia did with the 1070 and 1080?

I am still completely non the wiser as to how this will actually perform. One minute i read between 970-980 performance and the next i read fury pro performance.
 
JediFragger said:
Or it could be like Fury, and hardly OC at all :eek:
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same way aliens might knock on your door and say we going to beam you up and do some probing? at least they give a fair warning first right?

AthlonXP1800 said:
Nvidia will answer it with 1060.
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wont be enough.

Only one card to rule all other cards and its called Rx 480 now :D
E3 going to be interesting as partners are really hyped for this card.

Hyped!
 
There is no 2 ways about it, this is a nice card, even if it is between 970/980 performance and at £165. It isn't aimed for the majority of us but we are not the majority and the main gaming systems will look to a card of this caliber. I genuinely feel AMD have done very well with this and can see them clawing back market share. No mention from NVidia on a competitor either and NVidia have gone for the top end with the 1080/1070.

I personally would have liked to have seen some competition at the top end but can see why AMD have done what they have.
 
Jono8 said:
Do we know there will be a 480x or is the rX 480 the top polaris card?

I don't think anyone knows.
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No one knows, but they did say polaris will range from $100-300. And the RX480 4GB is $199, while the 8GB is $232, leaving $232-300 for a 480X part.
 
Jono8 said:
Do we know there will be a 480x or is the rX 480 the top polaris card?

I don't think anyone knows.
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My guess is there will be a 480x after Vega since it would be too close to Fury/FuryX to release now. They are likely to want to flog those cards in the meantime.
 
The best thing about the AMD Live stream was this ...

Re MS rep

53:18 How many here are running windows 10 about half the room place there hands up ... how many people like windows 10 about 4 or 5 put there hands up EPIC FAIL :) ..... after the poor response he steps back and he as to resort to saying "if you find it not making your expectations file in those feedbacks" what a mess M$

I love the fact also that he is using the old trick that if i hold my hand up you will too !

https://youtu.be/ZwlQvjwYFEM?t=3194

Very interested in the P10 and the price it will be ...
 
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sanaxe1 said:
If the 8GB version comes in under £200 ill get 2. It won't be a massive upgrade from my 2 x 290's reference cards but i'm hoping for some big improvements in heat and noise!
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That's exactly what I am going to do.

At this price such an opportunity is waiting to be pounced on.
 
why nobody is talking about the elephant in the room, perf per watt, down to x1.7 instead of x2.5 in the roadmap slide
ashes bench shows that 1080 is about 70-80% faster, although it's hard to say thats dx12, need dx11 games to have more accurate read on performance, and i think performance will be lower than we expected, slightly higher than 970, the 480 might beat the 980 in dx12 games, but could be consistantly beaten by 980 in dx11 games by a fair 10% margin, although with that price i dont really care 199$ is perfect pricing for that perf at the moment.
now i just hope they have a higher card than what they showed with extra 20-25% perf for about 299$, unlikely but one can only hope :D.
 
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AlamoX said:
why nobody is talking about the elephant in the room, perf per watt, down to x1.7 instead of x2.5 in the roadmap slide
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They show 1.7, and then x2.8 with architectural improvement. That's more than the Up To 2.5 they talked about late last year when demo'ing Polaris running Battlefront.
 
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