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Amds always last to the party, furyx2 @ £1300 laughable. I really hope their new cards are out soon and are at least 1070 performance for a lot less likely
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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0
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That's not a card for gamers, that's a card for graphics professionals.
Amd really seem to be pushing dx12 and Vr for there new cards.
https://twitter.com/Roy_techhwood/status/729031180582936576
https://twitter.com/Roy_techhwood/status/729031180582936576
i dont know about you, but i see this nvidia event to be a good news for AMD, once the dust settles and you read the slides, nvidia isnt really that far ahead performance wise a 20% over 980Ti, that would make polaris 10XT around 30-40% slower than 1080 for half/3rd the price of the regular/founder, and 10% slower than 1070 if not trading blows, with a chip 3rd of the size smaller, the ability to undercut the price by a fair 50-100$ is there.
the new nvidia features are ok, the projection is cool, but the applications are limited, the hansel photoshop is meh.
the new nvidia features are ok, the projection is cool, but the applications are limited, the hansel photoshop is meh.
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I can't help but feel that AMD keeping silent about Polaris is a bad plan. I really hope they release some info on a release date and approx performance before Pascal is available, as i don't think many are going to bother waiting around for AMD's cards if we have no news by then.
At the moment, the general consensus, rightly or wrongly is that Polaris is only going to be mid range stuff, possibly not even as fast as a 980Ti so i can just see everyone ( myself included) getting a 1070 or 1080 and not bothering to wait any longer.
At the moment, the general consensus, rightly or wrongly is that Polaris is only going to be mid range stuff, possibly not even as fast as a 980Ti so i can just see everyone ( myself included) getting a 1070 or 1080 and not bothering to wait any longer.
I doubt Amd will give us any details until the computex show 31st may to 4th june.
Then it might be another month before they release the polaris cards,so maybe early july.
People will proberly buy the 1070 and 1080 instead of waiting for Amd to release polaris.
Then it might be another month before they release the polaris cards,so maybe early july.
People will proberly buy the 1070 and 1080 instead of waiting for Amd to release polaris.
We agree on something at last
Yeah the 1070 looks like it could be the one for me. AMD's total silence just doesn't do them any favours, now that nV have (paper) launched.
I don't see why media silence will help them from this point on. nV can't change their hand now. They've announced released date and RRP.
What can AMD stand to lose from releasing some specs about their cards? If they are disappointing, well people would just buy nV cards on seeing the reviews.
If they /aren't/ disappointing, at least we can wait in the knowledge there's something worth waiting for.
AMD need to get that info out there pronto. Otherwise the call of the 1070 is pretty strong
We agree on something at last
Ha, i knew we would get there some day
But yeh, i do hope AMD release some info before pascal is actually available.
I wont be pre-ordering but would like some sort of new card in June some time.
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Then AMD would be doing one of 2 things by taking this course of action.
1. Proving they have nothing to compete against 1070 or 1080
2. Being total and utter idiots by not at least showing they have very competitive GPUs at competitive prices.
Though given AMDs utterly crap PR work in the past I would expect option 2 to be true.
AMDs PR/Marketing actions generally take the form of, "someone stop that horse, I left the barn door unlocked... again".
Maybe those incompetencies and fails of recent history by amd were deliberate to assist in artificial inflated pricing tiers between nvidia and themselves to help them increase their prices.
Maybe amd will get it right this time but their silence doesn't give me good feelings, it feels like dejavu with fury when gm200 made an appearance.
Fiji has front end problems and so compared to hawaii/grenada the gains of fury aren't great considering the amount of shaders and resources.
In some situations hawaii is within reach of a fury.
I'd say if the polaris 10 can gain 20% either by architecture or with clockspeed over a 390x then amd have done well. Either way fury is losing amd money and they cannot afford to price cut it so it'd be good to get p10 out as soon as possible.
Fiji chips should be shifted into Nano, not reference Nano, but parteners like sapphire, MSI, Asus to custome the Nanos, but they need to get rid of the FuryX and FuryPro
Totally agree, only the nano should have veen released.but the problems are the size of the die, yield rate and interposer expense.
Fury is best at 1ghz and so I agree it needs a custom cooler and a modified bios to hold a solid 1ghz but what can amd price it at? What would be the point if polaris can get near fury performance on a small due.also what is the die size of the 1070/1080 anyone know?
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Oh Oh......
Caporegime
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Why? NV fanboys have to buy a 10x0 to beat the FuryX at DX12 and stop their tears running over the last few months. Also they have to avoid the natural driver degradation of their one year old 980Ti. Something that doesn't apply to the AMD products (aka see the 290X performance nowadays)
To understand their IQ see them right now on the other threads. They even celebrate that NV supports Vulcan on DOOM and some say "AMD sucks because they are stick to DX12". Is futile trying to explain that Vulcan is basically Mantle in it's core and fully supported by AMD. But after all those decades, I do not care any more. Let them spend their money on the new 10x0 and then in 6 months, another amount of the next NV product, trying to keep up with times.
Closing, explains a lot that NV is something like religion to them, because the new NV cards going to support DP1.4/1.3 which means on hardware level the vesa adaptive sync is there, but not supported by their drivers, just to milk them like cows on Gsync modules.
Any other company in electronics or not, following such tactic, should have been crucified publicly by them.