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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

AlamoX said:
i dont usualy derail threads, but defining the position of polaris 10 by comparing it to the 1070 perf/price wise does seem obvious and within the thread's topic, and i usualy get out of the argument if it turns into bashing, or way off topic.
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I quite agree which is why I joined in the discusion. Unless someone has an intrinsic bias they won't care about brand and will look at price, performance and features.

Personally I think k the top Polaris will be a little slower than the 2070 but a little cheaper, which makes for a very good option. It might really take off for crossfire
 
The article again tells us nothing. The gtx980 and above can hold a constant 60FPS. What this means is the 480 could be anywhere in performance terms from the gtx980 and above. It's more keeping us guessing just like the Hitman demo.
 
Seanspeed said:
Well that's what they say the demonstration was running it at.

Which is strange when they're showing it on a 144hz Freesync monitor....?

And how are they certain it is not dropping at all?
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I'm asking because there is 0 indication how fast it's running from that picture and there was no mention how fast its running in Robert Hallocks tweet (which started this) before it was removed.
 
Seanspeed said:
Well that's what they say the demonstration was running it at.

Which is strange when they're showing it on a 144hz Freesync monitor....?

And how are they certain it is not dropping at all?
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If it was a solid 60, then it could have been fps locked in game which is an option.
 
Opengl is a weak point for AMD so why would they even show Doom running on a Polaris? Strange , unless they had it running faster than 60fps at some point in the demo.
 
D.P. said:
What is weird is they chose a 1080p monitor to demonstrate 1440P resolution.
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As above when you choose 1440p vsr do you not have to lose hz. This would nullify questions coming in about the 60FPS lock. They are trying hard to hide what Polaris can do and this would be a clever way. It's either very good or slower than expected. Hints suggest it's pretty good so far.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I have not looked to much into vSr but it was a 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor. When choosing to go 1440p vsr do you not drop some hz like to say 60?.
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I don't thin so, it would be stupid if that was the case. The Graphics cards is still outputting a 1080P image, there would be absolutely no reason for the monitor to require the refresh rate to be lowered.



i expect it was some original to show the power efficiency like with the Hitman demo. AMD have very good lock getting technology which saves a chunk of power when the GPU is run at lower loads by being frame capped.

The whole thing is a bit weird though. They are running 1140P on a 10 monitor, frame capping 60Hz on a 144Hz monitor, running Doom 3which AMD doesn't do great at.

D we know if it was running OpenGL, could have been running Vulkan which might help make sense. They might have been comparing OpenGL to Vulkan showing the improvements but then its is all weird if they cap the frame rates.
 
Checking out far earlier posts on this tweet, no information on FPS was disclosed in the original tweet, so the PCGAMER stuff is more than likely BS.

ALthough them keeping things under wraps with frame locks can help them weed out NDA breakers.
 
D.P. said:
I don't thin so, it would be stupid if that was the case. The Graphics cards is still outputting a 1080P image, there would be absolutely no reason for the monitor to require the refresh rate to be lowered.



i expect it was some original to show the power efficiency like with the Hitman demo. AMD have very good lock getting technology which saves a chunk of power when the GPU is run at lower loads by being frame capped.

The whole thing is a bit weird though. They are running 1140P on a 10 monitor, frame capping 60Hz on a 144Hz monitor, running Doom 3which AMD doesn't do great at.

D we know if it was running OpenGL, could have been running Vulkan which might help make sense. They might have been comparing OpenGL to Vulkan showing the improvements but then its is all weird if they cap the frame rates.
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Yea I think I read it was Open GL so you could be right.

Knowing the card can easily hold a 60FPS minimum is a good way to give people a full on Freesync smooth experience without giving away the full performance. It makes sense from that point off view.
 
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D.P. said:
What is weird is they chose a 1080p monitor to demonstrate 1440P resolution.
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That is indeed a strange choice.

Was hoping some more info would come out of the Macau event. But to be honest from what I have seen and heard it does look more positive than negative.

I am hoping AMD come out with something better than what we are expecting. But not exactly holding my breath.
 
TheRealDeal said:
As above when you choose 1440p vsr do you not have to lose hz. This would nullify questions coming in about the 60FPS lock. They are trying hard to hide what Polaris can do and this would be a clever way. It's either very good or slower than expected. Hints suggest it's pretty good so far.
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Why would you lower the refresh rate? The card isn't outputting a higher resolution to the monitor, the monitor receives the output at its native 1080p resolution because the GPU is downsampling to that.

Not saying your wrong, i just don't understand in the slightest why it would be lowered form1 44hz to to 60HZ when it is still outputting a 108p image.

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AMD website seems to indicate 60HZ but I don't get why.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vsr

If that is true then choosing a 1080 monitor to demonstrate 1440p performance is just plain retard.
 
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GFX-Kid said:
That is indeed a strange choice.

Was hoping some more info would come out of the Macau event. But to be honest from what I have seen and heard it does look more positive than negative.

I am hoping AMD come out with something better than what we are expecting. But not exactly holding my breath.
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It wasn't a public event so i didn't expect too much. There will be a trickle of information until the end of June NDA lifts.

We might get some snippets form Computex but my fear is it will be similar to the previous news, mentioning 2x performance per Watt, lts of VR talk and pricing points, DX12, and a demo running on Hitman with more frame caps.

I'm thinking/hoping 390x to nano performance for $300.
 
D.P. said:
Why would you lower the refresh rate? The card isn't outputting a higher resolution to the monitor, the monitor receives the output at its native 1080p resolution because the GPU is downsampling to that.

Not saying your wrong, i just don't understand in the slightest why it would be lowered form1 44hz to to 60HZ when it is still outputting a 108p image.

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AMD website seems to indicate 60HZ but I don't get why.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vsr
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I just think it's to hide the full performance. Minimums above 60 put it at gtx980 or above. Everyone is still guessing as to how good it is. One thing to keep in mind is there is no 390x in there which probably would be faster than the gtx980.
 
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