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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

Steampunk said:
My biggest problem is that I just don't think Polaris will be good enough for me to upgrade from a 290. 390 wasn't, Fury was absurdly priced. If P10 is just a bit more performance than 390 at a cheap price, then I'll be waiting on Vega, and hoping the pricing is sensible as it looks like it will be 490, rather than some extra vanity product above the normal stack.

I'm hoping Polaris does well, as Vega will build on that and will have to be better again. I think Vega will be the true increase in performance, where Polaris is just bringing the current top performance down into the mainstream.
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Yeah. I really do hope the pest performing Polaris can offer close enough performance to a 1070 and come in at around £250.

That will then keep me happy until vega/ti comes along. We all know that is when the true performance of 16nm will arrive. No point wasting to much money on these early cards :D
 
Steampunk said:
My biggest problem is that I just don't think Polaris will be good enough for me to upgrade from a 290. 390 wasn't, Fury was absurdly priced. If P10 is just a bit more performance than 390 at a cheap price, then I'll be waiting on Vega, and hoping the pricing is sensible as it looks like it will be 490, rather than some extra vanity product above the normal stack.

I'm hoping Polaris does well, as Vega will build on that and will have to be better again. I think Vega will be the true increase in performance, where Polaris is just bringing the current top performance down into the mainstream.
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+1 to this, exactly how I feel.
 
Steampunk said:
My biggest problem is that I just don't think Polaris will be good enough for me to upgrade from a 290. 390 wasn't, Fury was absurdly priced. If P10 is just a bit more performance than 390 at a cheap price, then I'll be waiting on Vega, and hoping the pricing is sensible as it looks like it will be 490, rather than some extra vanity product above the normal stack.

I'm hoping Polaris does well, as Vega will build on that and will have to be better again. I think Vega will be the true increase in performance, where Polaris is just bringing the current top performance down into the mainstream.
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1070 may be your best bet for reasonable money. I think Vega will cost a bomb on release unfortunately. Either that or the Fury's may come down in price as the 1070 looks like it performs around FuryX level or slightly above in most cases.
 
I don't mind paying a bomb for Vega *IF* it makes all other GPUs on the planet look lame in comparison lol, seriously though, I've had my 290 since forever and I want to upgrade, I have 2k set aside for upgrading my PC, I only usually buy the best price to performance ratio items, but I may splash out more than normal on Vega if the performance warrants it
 
Lokken86 said:
1070 may be your best bet for reasonable money. I think Vega will cost a bomb on release unfortunately. Either that or the Fury's may come down in price as the 1070 looks like it performs around FuryX level or slightly above in most cases.
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I'm not really interested in Nvidia products if I have other choices.

I don't think Fury will survive. It's a product that I think AMD wants to get rid of as it's last of the 28nm chips, and really just a test bed for HBM and the interposer. The fact that it came in above the 390 shows it's not part of their normal product stack. That's why I was happy that Polaris is a 380, because it means that Vega is the 490 and will be priced as such, rather than vanty products that come with water pumps and other sillyness.
 
SiDeards73 said:
I don't mind paying a bomb for Vega *IF* it makes all other GPUs on the planet look lame in comparison lol, seriously though, I've had my 290 since forever and I want to upgrade, I have 2k set aside for upgrading my PC, I only usually buy the best price to performance ratio items, but I may splash out more than normal on Vega if the performance warrants it
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Vega is a completely overhauled architecture over Fiji and the performance difference will probably be massive. It's meant to complete with nvidias highest end gpu which probably gives you a rough idea where it will sit at. I wouldn't be surprised to see 30% over a 1080 tbh. Then there's the 1080ti.

Bottom line is big performance is big money.
 
Lokken86 said:
Vega is a completely overhauled architecture over Fiji and the performance difference will probably be massive. It's meant to complete with nvidias highest end gpu which probably gives you a rough idea where it will sit at. I wouldn't be surprised to see 30% over a 1080 tbh. Then there's the 1080ti.

Bottom line is big performance is big money.
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Hopefully Vega is a contender, if not its yet another disappointing release =/
 
Lokken86 said:
Vega is a completely overhauled architecture over Fiji and the performance difference will probably be massive. It's meant to complete with nvidias highest end gpu which probably gives you a rough idea where it will sit at. I wouldn't be surprised to see 30% over a 1080 tbh. Then there's the 1080ti.

Bottom line is big performance is big money.
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Traditonally, AMD compete with Nvidia's highest end GPU with a dual-chip x90 card.
 
Gerard said:
Hopefully Vega is a contender, if not its yet another disappointing release =/
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If AMD had simply shrank Fiji to the new process if would have beat the 1070 soundly and probably matched or beat 1080. The clockspeed was one of the main things holding Fiji back as well as DX11 bottlenecks.
With the new architecture improvements coupled with process benefits I will be very surprised if Vega doesn't compete with the 1080Ti.
 
Shader utilisation and limited top are what hold Fiji back. It is why it sees the biggest benefit from async. Hawaii kind of had the sweet spot for the architecture but Tonga seemed to bring it away from it.
 
Probably a backpack PC partnership or something, they seem to be all the rage at the moment, it's basically a laptop you wear as a backpack and connect a VR headset to.

Gimmick if you ask me

Would prefer they gave some concrete gpu and CPU info
 
SiDeards73 said:
Probably a backpack PC partnership or something, they seem to be all the rage at the moment, it's basically a laptop you wear as a backpack and connect a VR headset to.

Gimmick if you ask me

Would prefer they gave some concrete gpu and CPU info
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Good insight and IMO not Gimmicky, its better than being tethered to a Desktop.
 
Rroff said:
The can't get out more tag line seems to suggest VR or a mobile device.
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Most likely ur right, as soon as i hit the 'submit' button i thought, this isnt gona be Polaris related is it lol

Saying that, a huge chunk of this thread isnt Polaris related anyway. :)
 
MyBrains said:
Most likely ur right, as soon as i hit the 'submit' button i thought, this isnt gona be Polaris related is it lol

Saying that, a huge chunk of this thread isnt Polaris related anyway. :)
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At the moment AMD is so cloak and daggers it could mean anything heh.
 
I don't understand why people expect so little of Polaris 10. I mean even a straight die shrink of a 390X would be ~220mm2 and would obviously be the speed of a 390X.

P10 is a little bigger than that and it will no doubt have efficiency improvements which I would hope at least minorly improve this, then with a pretty good clock bump on top of that.

If it came out any slower than a 390X minimum I would be very disappointed.
 
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