AMD Radeon GFX & DirectX 12

humbug · 27 May 2015 at 17:59

Are all these features available on the 290?

Edit:

new boy said:
How well will existing AMD cards suport DX12 Matt? I know suporting, and fully suporting are things, and there is a wide gap in the middle, where will the 290(x) stand?

Yeah, that ^^^^^

trisp · 27 May 2015 at 18:03

Meanwhile in reality the current support for crossfire profiles is terrible and the 3 series card's seem to have been pushed back cause of all the 980 ti hype.

God i home samsung or another company start making gpu's soon.

Scougar · 27 May 2015 at 18:11

Hopefully this is real way forward for multi-card setups, with less problems. Looking forward to it :-)

Confused Stu · 27 May 2015 at 18:12

slick rick said:
Will this make compiling Crossfire profile's quicker and easier or will it be the same?

The way I'm reading it, with developers being in control of how multi-GPU performs, there won't be any need (or possibly even ability?) to write Crossfire profiles on AMD/Nvidia's side. It's all going to be in the hands of the developers.

TNA said:
If this works properly and drivers work just like single cards, I may finally try out crossfire. Sounds promising. But drivers AMD, need drivers to work and be released consistently and certainly be ready for big game releases like Witcher 3!

As above, sounds like DX12 should bring the end of us moaning to AMD/Nvidia about multi-GPU not working on release day, instead we'll need to moan to Ubisoft/Dice/EA or the development studios themselves. That genuinely worries me and I really hope I'm wrong on this.

chroniclard said:
Wont all this apply to NVidia too?

Yup. Aside from the graphics of GPUs (it is an AMD presentation, so fair enough) all the actual info is bipartisan and doesn't say it only applies to one side or the other.

shankly1985 · 27 May 2015 at 18:16

Can't wait, future of pc gaming. Next year is going to be Stunning :cool:

Poneros · 27 May 2015 at 18:20

Considering DX12 is born from the flesh of Mantle I expect AMD will have better performance than Nvidia for at least a year. Maxwell will go the way of Kepler, choking on itself while Nvidia prepare new releases.

Confused Stu · 27 May 2015 at 18:22

Poneros said:
Considering DX12 is born from the flesh of Mantle I expect AMD will have better performance than Nvidia for at least a year. Maxwell will go the way of Kepler, choking on itself while Nvidia prepare new releases.

Vulcan (the next OpenGL) is born from the flesh of Mantle (awesome phrase, by the way!), but DX12 is completely independent. The need for a less obstructive DX was arguable highlighted and maybe even inspired by Mantle, but aside from philosophy I don't think there's anything else in common between them.

formby · 27 May 2015 at 18:24

This can only be a good thing for everyone if it all works and devs do their part to support it.

flopper · 27 May 2015 at 18:25

Confused Stu said:
The way I'm reading it, with developers being in control of how multi-GPU performs, there won't be any need (or possibly even ability?) to write Crossfire profiles on AMD/Nvidia's side. It's all going to be in the hands of the developers.

developers has more control over how the hardware presents their game pretty much asked for decades and now possible thanks to Mantle and amd.

DX12 is really good news for anyone esepcially those who has a bit weaker cpu which is the majority.

Breeze · 27 May 2015 at 18:29

I'm more interested in DX12 than the new cards.

shankly1985 · 27 May 2015 at 18:34

Breeze said:
I'm more interested in DX12 than the new cards.

Think I can agree with that.

new boy · 27 May 2015 at 18:34

flopper said:
developers has more control over how the hardware presents their game pretty much asked for decades and now possible thanks to Mantle and amd.

DX12 is really good news for anyone esepcially those who has a bit weaker cpu which is the majority.

I think most people on this forum have an overclocked 2500k or better and a single GPU, so I'd say 85%+ of OCUK members are GPU bound in most titles, and the titles they are CPU bound in they are achieving acceptable frames.

Noctifer · 27 May 2015 at 18:39

new boy said:
I think most people on this forum have an overclocked 2500k or better and a single GPU, so I'd say 85%+ of OCUK members are CPU bound in most titles, and the titles they are CPU bound in they are achieving acceptable frames.

So those guys would still benefit from DX12 considering right now their games aren't using the iGPU on that i5, something that can be used in DX12.

Minstadave · 27 May 2015 at 18:40

Edited.

LoadsaMoney · 27 May 2015 at 18:42

Reported the OP for trolling.

Minstadave · 27 May 2015 at 18:44

LoadsaMoney said:
Reported the OP for trolling.

new boy · 27 May 2015 at 18:44

Minstadave said:
Do you mean GPU bound in 85%?

Yes, yes I do. Now edited.

Mei · 27 May 2015 at 18:47

LoadsaMoney said:
Reported the OP for trolling.

done & done!

i got a question for you all
do you think we will see any games being re-released for dx12 or patches etc?? or will we only see new games??

a few games i can mention i wouldnt mind buying again if they did a good job lol
<3

Nexus18 · 27 May 2015 at 18:49

I think this (dx 12/windows 10) and amd's new cards are where the the entire amd driver team have been spending most of their time and money over the last several months and as a result the current gpu's (more so crossfire users) and windows 7/8/8.1 have suffered, lets just hope it really pays of...

I am in no rush to get a new gpu so can hold of for a bit longer.

flopper · 27 May 2015 at 18:50

Mei said:
done & done!

i got a question for you all
do you think we will see any games being re-released for dx12 or patches etc?? or will we only see new games??

a few games i can mention i wouldnt mind buying again if they did a good job lol
<3

The adaptation rate will be high for new game engines and games for dx12.
since you have more control and can do things previously not possible its a candy store with Dx12 for those guys.

btw
its coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bVoIQrH7g