AMD Radeon R-200 graphics cards naming unveiled

JediFragger · 14 Sep 2013 at 00:42

cainer said:
maybe nv will then drop the price of the 780 = price war
probably not though

Nah, they'll probably stay £30/$50 above as per usual. Someone's gotta pay for Physx

Rroff · 14 Sep 2013 at 02:25

Orangey said:
I will laugh if all this is wrong and it does turn out to be 4096 SPs, 20nm, 512bit.

But as this ain't pro-wrestling I think we are close to the truth now.

I would laugh then wonder where they got it from.

Theres a slim chance it could be IBM 22nm but I could be talking complete BS as I have no idea if technically thats even possible.

Unless they are gonna trot out a few demo boards on 20nm and make most people wait til next year for actual availability neither main provider for 20nm are supposed to be ready for mass production this side of christmas.

Marine-RX179 · 14 Sep 2013 at 06:12

JediFragger said:
Yup, trade blows with the 780 and slightly undercut it

Problem is £465 isn't gonna temp people enough not to pay the extra and hug the GTX780 instead. RetrogamerX and cainer's comment above is pretty reflecting how people are prepared to pay for a AMD top card, rather than Nvidia.

As I said, £420-£450 would already be pushing it, unless AMD's top card came out clearly faster than the GTX780, rather than being equal to it.

Kaapstad · 14 Sep 2013 at 09:26

Marine-RX179 said:
Problem is £465 isn't gonna temp people enough not to pay the extra and hug the GTX780 instead. RetrogamerX and cainer's comment above is pretty reflecting how people are prepared to pay for a AMD top card, rather than Nvidia.

As I said, £420-£450 would already be pushing it, unless AMD's top card came out clearly faster than the GTX780, rather than being equal to it.

I think one thing AMD need to work on is the appearance of their cards.

NVidia have shown the way to go with the GTX 690, Titan and stock GTX 780.

If AMD can match them in this it will help to justify a higher price that people will pay.

Marine-RX179 · 14 Sep 2013 at 09:58

Kaapstad said:
I think one thing AMD need to work on is the appearance of their cards.

NVidia have shown the way to go with the GTX 690, Titan and stock GTX 780.

If AMD can match them in this it will help to justify a higher price that people will pay.

You are talking about the Titan cooler right? In my opinion though, the appearance is not the issue (since most people get the partner's custom cards anyway).

As I've mentioned before, the 7950/7970 were at around £100 lower than the GTX670/GTX680 for quite a while and had more vram and higher memory bus/potential memory bandwidth, yet it still didn't help them shift more cards than Nvidia. If AMD brought out a card that's equal to the GTX780 but not at at least around £100, they would struggle to shift.

LtMatt · 14 Sep 2013 at 10:32

Do people buy a card on how it looks or how it performs? Always the latter for me. Not really that bothered if it looks nice or not. Sure a nice looking card is ideal, but its the least important factor i think. Its all about performance. Once the card is inside my case it really doesn't matter what it looks like as i don't sit there looking at it all day.

JediFragger · 14 Sep 2013 at 10:39

I must admit, when I got my 780 w/Titan cooler I'd forgotten that they light up and can be seen through my case window. Such a small small thing but I gotta admit I love it!!

I'm such a cheap blingy whore

It's just looking a little lonely in there now.....

Something Else · 14 Sep 2013 at 11:26

I just want a big core gpu able to take massive volts and overclock massively while putting out massive heat and power!!!! That on water would be epic! On air not so much haha

Boomstick777 · 14 Sep 2013 at 14:01

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gpuerrilla · 14 Sep 2013 at 14:35

LtMatt said:
Do people buy a card on how it looks or how it performs? Always the latter for me. Not really that bothered if it looks nice or not. Sure a nice looking card is ideal, but its the least important factor i think. Its all about performance. Once the card is inside my case it really doesn't matter what it looks like as i don't sit there looking at it all day.

+1 especially when you don't have a windowed case, who care what it looks like.

eddyr · 14 Sep 2013 at 15:05

Boomstick777 said:

It feels a little optimistic to have a 7870/50 level card as a lower mid range product, without further reduced SP's/bus/ram spec etc. With that in mind, surely a more efficient and smaller Bonaire derived part would make an appearance instead of butchered Pitcairns? Unless there's a lot of stock floating about.

JediFragger · 14 Sep 2013 at 15:27

It would be VERY nice if the R9 290 launched at the same time as the 280 :cool:

Nuclear Fusion · 14 Sep 2013 at 17:22

Not a fan of the new naming scheme I must admit, I think they should name them with human names, eg. 'Just bought a new AMD Dave' or 'Just benching my quad AMD Steve XT crossfire setup'

RetrogamerX · 14 Sep 2013 at 17:27

Nuclear Fusion said:
Not a fan of the new naming scheme I must admit, I think they should name them with human names, eg. 'Just bought a new AMD Dave' or 'Just benching my quad AMD Steve XT crossfire setup'

Haha I like that idea too

Boomstick777 · 14 Sep 2013 at 18:53

Nuclear Fusion said:
Not a fan of the new naming scheme I must admit, I think they should name them with human names, eg. 'Just bought a new AMD Dave' or 'Just benching my quad AMD Steve XT crossfire setup'

Haha that would be awesome

Kaapstad · 14 Sep 2013 at 18:59

Nuclear Fusion said:
Not a fan of the new naming scheme I must admit, I think they should name them with human names, eg. 'Just bought a new AMD Dave' or 'Just benching my quad AMD Steve XT crossfire setup'

Giving cards names would open the red team up to a terrible joke which I can not type here.

But it would be along the lines of being red and every "£$% having one.

gpuerrilla · 14 Sep 2013 at 22:32

Nuclear Fusion said:
Not a fan of the new naming scheme I must admit, I think they should name them with human names, eg. 'Just bought a new AMD Dave' or 'Just benching my quad AMD Steve XT crossfire setup'

Haha like it.

Freddie1980 · 15 Sep 2013 at 09:40

I would expect video card prices to be going up in the short to medium term not down, video ram is already expensive and with the destruction of one of main memory factories in Asia companies board partners wil have increase prices to maintain profit margins.

Marine-RX179 · 15 Sep 2013 at 10:03

Freddie1980 said:
I would expect video card prices to be going up in the short to medium term not down, video ram is already expensive and with the destruction of one of main memory factories in Asia companies board partners wil have increase prices to maintain profit margins.

Yea but the two Hynix's Chinese memory fabrication plants went up in fire only account for 15% of world's memory supply, but no doubt the price will gone up in a unproportionate rate, much like the price hike on the HDD back then.

Considering the possible price rise on next gen graphic card because of this, the Asus HD 7970 Matrix Platinum at £280 looks seriously temping...

jellofund · 15 Sep 2013 at 10:26

Marine-RX179 said:
the Asus HD 7970 Matrix Platinum at £280 looks seriously temping...

I have to say that the appearance of this card on special is testing my resolve to hold out for the R-200 cards. On the one hand I think if I buy the Matrix now something better will be announced for similar money (£300 max budget) but if there isn't by the time the 25th has come & gone the Matrix will have either sold out or OCUK will have increased the price a bit :confused:

What do you guys reckon (pure speculation I know!) - is it realistic to expect a Matrix beating R-200 card for similar money?