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AMD RX 480 Fails PCI-E Specification

I managed to power a couple of GTX 980s entirely from the PCI-E slots by accident once.

The system they were in was powered by two PSUs, unfortunately the one powering the cards failed which left the other PSU to power the cards through the motherboard. The remaining PSU was quite taxed I think as it has a total of 4 GTX 980s and a 5960X to power, fortunately when I realized what had happened I turned the system off.:D

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If you've got a modern motherboard you should be okay; iirc GPUs can legitimately pull 150w from PCIe 2.1 and above. That having been said If Tom's is accurate it's a bit of a screw up on AMD's part still.


it is a screw up again, AMD was advertising this card with such low power so anyone whos anyone could upgrade even the people who are still rocking core2duo from 2009 with a 300w psu from currys lol :p

now you need up to date parts

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Just can't believe how inefficient this thing is (power to performance wise). Is the 14nm node AMD using not as good as the 16nm node Nvidia is using or is this inefficiency due to design?

Design, Nvidia did a whole new architecture in Maxwell which don't forget still on the 28nm node was a huge performance/w improvement over Kepler. AMD has seen similar benefits from Hawaii to Polaris as Nvidia saw from Maxwell to Pascal which is primarily process. Though it's worth noting there are quite a few more hardware changes on Polaris than Pascal and some of those are certainly not being heavily utilised yet, HWS for example. But you look at Hitman, and some Doom results and intrinsics which should carry very specific performance optimisations from console to Polaris with little to no extra work.

Don't forget Polaris will be in two consoles, one in a little over a month(Xbox S One), one end of year I believe(neo) and Vega will be in Scorpio next year. So a lot of AAA titles with DX12 will have significant optimisations for GCN and more specifically for Polaris and Vega.

AMD cards are always forwards thinking, if Polaris gains a significant amount of performance using hardware that is turned on but not entirely utilised it will effectively increase it's performance/w over time. Compare hitman performance to other DX11 games and realise that almost every graphically advanced ultra demanding game from here on in will be DX12 as standard and optimised for consoles using a range of AMD hardware and in which DX12 allows the specific architecture optimisations to apply on PC as well as console.

Polaris isn't Pascal level efficient but it's a bigger jump than people realise, in 6-12 months the performance gains and consistent DX12 games will show this though. Vega will be another large step.

Effectively AMD was an architecture behind Nvidia, Polaris is AMD's Maxwell and Vega is AMD's Pascal.

People want Polaris to show a full process node performance/w improvement over Maxwell.... when AMD didn't match Maxwell in performance/w to begin with, it was an unrealistic expectation. AMD set out to make the fastest ~$200 card, which they've done, it's selling extremely well for them. By the time Nvidia have their top to bottom Pascal range out, AMD will have their Vega and Polaris range out. lack of a new architecture at the end of 28nm hurt them, but this is moving them past it in one generation. Navi will be targeting Volta up and down the range as most generations.
 
Ha so true. The amount of poop that gets flung at AMD during a new launch is at least entertaining. I mean to laugh at those doing the flinging.

I expect lot's of Nvidia fanboy anti AMD threads popping up over the next few days until the rabbid fanboys calm down :D:p

Hawaii had the fessed up throttling thread, Fiji got pumped, wouldn't be an AMD launch without a bit of Sid James thrown in.:D
 
been running fine on my giabyte g1 sniper z170 all night long, with no issues on sound and i use the onboard sound.

been running 1200p with ultra settings on the witcher 3 and project cars, it is a massive upgrade from my old gpu :)

i am very happy with it it will do me for a long time to come i think unless i get the upgrade itch and get better version of it :)

i do not understand all the hate towards it, it is running quiet for me but i have a fractal design r4 midi which has sound proofing lol

imo i could have either got a 390 or the 480 and since the 480 is newer tech i went with that, plus i have been waiting for so loing for 390 performance to drop into the slightly over 200 quid level.

my freind in my spare room has a sapphire nitro 390 and im getting about the same fps on the witcher 3 plus he has a 1080p monitor i have a 1200p one.

why all the hate it has always been a mid range card and it has not dissapointed the people that had older mid range cards.

390 performance for less power and a smaller card than my 270x while twice the speed , seems to be running cooler than my reference 4850 i had years ago ad much quieter :)
 
I have an old Asus M5A97 R2.0. (with an AMD 8350, Corsair CX600). Now ill be honest i dont understand the reddit thread in full. All i see is may damage components.

This all seems a bit up in the air at the moment, my msi rx480 arrives today. Do i open it and install it risking my other components or do i just send it back and wait for a 1060?

I know the chance is small, but if something does happen then who covers the damage? msi? amd? i really cant be bothered with the hassle.
 
I have an old Asus M5A97 R2.0. (with an AMD 8350, Corsair CX600). Now ill be honest i dont understand the reddit thread in full. All i see is may damage components.

This all seems a bit up in the air at the moment, my msi rx480 arrives today. Do i open it and install it risking my other components or do i just send it back and wait for a 1060?

I know the chance is small, but if something does happen then who covers the damage? msi? amd? i really cant be bothered with the hassle.

AMD are looking into it and should come up with a Driver fix.

I think its all a bit too much over plaid, the chances of it actually damaging anything are next to 0.
 
If you have more than one pci-e 16x slot your board has to support at least 150w to the slots, three and it's 225w so 2 in crossfire should be fine.
 
Im interested in how much these might overclock now when they get another power connector and water cooling. They might turn out to be a 300watt overclocking beast.
 
Well I'm waiting for Gtx 1060 and by that time We shall have custom Polaris gpu.Price should settle by then.I'm going to buy then RX 480 or Gtx 980 ti with water block,all depends who the prices will shape up.
 
I have an old Asus M5A97 R2.0. (with an AMD 8350, Corsair CX600). Now ill be honest i dont understand the reddit thread in full. All i see is may damage components.

This all seems a bit up in the air at the moment, my msi rx480 arrives today. Do i open it and install it risking my other components or do i just send it back and wait for a 1060?

I know the chance is small, but if something does happen then who covers the damage? msi? amd? i really cant be bothered with the hassle.

Your motherboard will be absolutely fine. The M5A97 R2.0 has PCI-E 2.0 slots, which can supply up to 300W perfectly happily (last paragraph here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-2.0,1915-2.html). This would only be a potential issue if you were still running a really old motherboard with a PCI-E 1.0 slot.

Get that card up and running and start enjoying your shiny new toy! :D
 
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