AMD RX 580 and RX 560 leak

orbitalwalsh · 13 Apr 2017 at 19:50

Tester card or review card up for grabs haha

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-radeon-rx-570-gaming-x-spotted-at-ebay

AlamoX · 13 Apr 2017 at 19:58

i still do not see the added value on these 500series, in fact i see a devalue if the price increase is accurate.
clock barely go up 100mhz base and clock on the reference one, puting it on par with 480 AIB, i really hope there is more room for overclock, they need to reach 1500mhz to 1600mhz for them to justify the price hike, and pull a clean win over the 1060.

orbitalwalsh · 13 Apr 2017 at 21:14

AlamoX said:
i still do not see the added value on these 500series, in fact i see a devalue if the price increase is accurate.
clock barely go up 100mhz base and clock on the reference one, puting it on par with 480 AIB, i really hope there is more room for overclock, they need to reach 1500mhz to 1600mhz for them to justify the price hike, and pull a clean win over the 1060.

Either go 3 ways, they've learnt from Nvidia marketing about stating lower boost levels when actually all the cards can do better speeds even without over clock and the chip is good.

Can over clock like a beast, still pondering the extreme with its 8+6 pin arrangement

Clock speeds as stated but somehow they've changed a lot more under the hood

muon · 13 Apr 2017 at 22:26

LoadsaMoney said:
The 970 is its competitor.

Isn't the 970 EoL? I think they are just going back 2 generations to when Polaris didn't exist.

These cards better overclock loads in order to make this refresh worth it. Otherwise a whole lot of effort for not much.

five8five · 13 Apr 2017 at 23:15

muon said:
These cards better overclock loads in order to make this refresh worth it. Otherwise a whole lot of effort for not much.

If they overclock really well wouldn't they instead raise the base and boost clocks to a much higher level to make them much more attractive compared to the 400 series?

muon · 14 Apr 2017 at 00:04

five8five said:
If they overclock really well wouldn't they instead raise the base and boost clocks to a much higher level to make them much more attractive compared to the 400 series?

Depends if they were targetting a specific TDP. Polaris isn't as efficient as Pascal.

TonyTurbo78 · 14 Apr 2017 at 01:06

TNA said:
Hey @TonyTurbo78 I guess your prediction did not pan out in the end. If they price these close to £300 as you suggested, it will be LOL

I still have faith in my prediction of Vega however

Where's the price of the 580x?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 14 Apr 2017 at 01:25

Well my RX470 Red Devil already does 1400mhz fine so unless the RX570 overclocks much better it seems not much of an upgrade.

At least the RX550 and RX560 seem a larger jump in comparison.

Erik13 · 14 Apr 2017 at 03:10

Probably one of the pointless releases ever. At least introduce 40 or 44 unit models we know u have them thx to scorpio announcement. Seriously ultra dumb move by Amd and making it 5xx series just lol

shankly1985 · 14 Apr 2017 at 03:31

I just want VEGA AMD please

DONOHUE07 · 14 Apr 2017 at 03:48

Other than the rx550 and the rx560, these are absolutely pointless

TNA · 14 Apr 2017 at 06:16

TonyTurbo78 said:
Where's the price of the 580x?

We do not need them. They won't be any more (in dollars) then the 400 series equivalent imo. If anything they should be cheaper.

HeX · 14 Apr 2017 at 07:57

Erik13 said:
Probably one of the pointless releases ever. At least introduce 40 or 44 unit models we know u have them thx to scorpio announcement. Seriously ultra dumb move by Amd and making it 5xx series just lol

So much this. If they just released a full Polaris it'd be a nice jump in performance.

N19h7m4r3 · 14 Apr 2017 at 08:27

Erik13 said:
Probably one of the pointless releases ever. At least introduce 40 or 44 unit models we know u have them thx to scorpio announcement. Seriously ultra dumb move by Amd and making it 5xx series just lol

HeX said:
So much this. If they just released a full Polaris it'd be a nice jump in performance.

Looks like their stuck giving all the goodies to Microsoft. Just like last year when all the best binned Polaris chips went to Apple. Even the 450 and 460s for Apple had more stream processors.

It's a damn shame. The 40-44CU card could have been 580.

Then they could have the 480 become 570 and so on.

eiamhere69 · 14 Apr 2017 at 08:39

HeX said:
So much this. If they just released a full Polaris it'd be a nice jump in performance.

They stated a long while back that the RX480 was the full Polaris chip. If these were simple refinements and very slight clock increases, why not just go RX475, RX485, etc. as they were expected last year.

Perhaps Polaris 20 is the chip they began for the 4k consoles, improved Polaris with Vega goodies, probably not

eiamhere69 · 14 Apr 2017 at 08:52

eiamhere69 said:
They stated a long while back that the RX480 was the full Polaris chip. If these were simple refinements and very slight clock increases, why not just go RX475, RX485, etc. as they were expected last year.

Perhaps Polaris 20 is the chip they began for the 4k consoles, improved Polaris with Vega goodies, probably not

Even with these being "new" cards, they're quite high. Given where Vega needs to land, there appears to be a gap.

Either Vega is fail, which I doubt / hope or Polaris is better, why such secret?

Nvidia have the option to refine AND sell cards closer to max frequency, instead of gree overclocks. They still gave a lot of room to adjust, without even taking into account fie size, power draw, etc.

bimbleuk · 14 Apr 2017 at 09:24

Best thing about the 570/580 for me is it sounds like the RRP is going up which will help to maintain the value of my 470/480s which I have plenty of. As I don't clock over 1100 MHz on the core they don't have any other appeal to me currently.

Nate75 · 14 Apr 2017 at 09:26

bimbleuk said:
Best thing about the 570/580 for me is it sounds like the RRP is going up which will help to maintain the value of my 470/480s which I have plenty of. As I don't clock over 1100 MHz on the core they don't have any other appeal to me currently.

Yep I was all set to grab a 580 but a Powercolor Devil 480 was going for £150 off a mate so really glad I got this now...

eiamhere69 · 14 Apr 2017 at 09:39

Nate75 said:
Yep I was all set to grab a 580 but a Powercolor Devil 480 was going for £150 off a mate so really glad I got this now...

Good news for us in that respect if the slight clocks are true, which are likely

akarypid · 14 Apr 2017 at 20:20

Aorus RX580 XTR runs at 1439MHz OC out of the box.

Dropbox link with high-res photos.