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AMD RX 580 and RX 560 leak

Or perhaps the RX480 is really the RX580 with some settings switched off, like the 4gb versions were really 8gb versions.

Aaah, if only ;)

Haha maybe. It was funny seeing people peel off the 4GB stickers and seeing 8GB, and then BIOS flashing to activate the other 8GB VRAM.

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I was getting the 2.1 from the scorpio information. Thought it was going to be a requirement for freesync 2.
AMD haven't confirmed but loking at specs the technologies aren't bound to each other, freesync 2 wil work on any gnc card version 1.1 or latter since Freesync 1 already supports variable refresh and HDR.
Well it's going to work via DisplayPort too so I don't see how HDMI 2.1 can be a "requirement".
 
It can run 4k and wont be using ultra settings but I guess thats fine. Good to have the capability if not an ideal capacity, plus crossfire?
Look at the GTX 1060 3GB though, it was launched when the 480 and 470 were still doing meh in DX11 pre ReLive drivers, and now you rarely really see that 3GB model ever included in mainstream review sites. ( bar little youtubers like TechEpiphany )
They just list GTX 1060, so ole Joe also thinks now that the 3GB and 6GB are the same card, just half the RAM; when in fact it's cut down on CUDA cores as well.

As crappy as it all is though, it's a refresh and I personally expect at least a 10% improvement over current RX 480's. That'll make it an okay refresh, otherwise meh. Just get a 400 card on the cheap as the price is going to drop a little with the 500 series out.

I almost got a 3gb 1060 I saw cheap, I hadnt realised that though. Decided its a half way house kinda a false economy.

refresh = expected 0% gain and less power heat maybe. I agree theres a problem for AMD in that they have genuine improvement in lifetime of a card and its unappreciated or even known, half the reason for a refresh then
 
I was getting the 2.1 from the scorpio information. Thought it was going to be a requirement for freesync 2.
There was some news about a year ago that AMD was working on a solution to get adaptive sync working over HDMI as well as displayport, looking back now it's clear this was meant to get Freesync working on consoles which are by and large hooked up to TV's which run of HDMI. In the PC space users can still use displayport and on cards using the Vega architecture they will have an option to use displayport of HDMI.

It can run 4k and wont be using ultra settings but I guess thats fine.

Tbh the difference between 'ultra' settings and even 'medium' isn't that great in modern titles sure there's a visual difference but it's not like the old days imo thanks to modern rendering techniques. For the Xbox with it's beefed up 480/vega hybrid GPU it seems it can handle 4k rather well which bodes well for PC users.
 
What can a 480 do at 4k 60hz even if it had hdmi 2.0 standard? Some youtube tech demos at 4k60 and some very basic games?

Tell you what, have a 4K screen set to 30hz for desktop work and you will soon be pulling your eyeballs out. I don't just game. Looks like I completely missed the 580 box saying HDMI 2 on it, good news ☺

480 did not have HDMI 2 at launch and neither did fury, hence the need for people like club3D to release adapters for AMD. I don't just make this stuff up.
 

You are correct. The RX480 came with HDMI 2.0a to be exact.

The "a" revision is important because it meant support for HDR over HDMI, which was meant to be added in HDMI 2.1, but was made available through a revision over 2.0 (hence 2.0a). I think we can all agree the RX480 supported HDR at launch, so there is no way it had a lower version than 2.0a (as those simply don't support HDR, not even HDMI 2.0).

EDIT: I was wrong on the 2.0a. But still correct about the 2.0.

Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/227941/amd-radeon-gpus-limit-hdr-color-depth-to-8bpc-over-hdmi-2-0

Apparently there was some commotion about the card down-sampling HDR when used over HDMI (as opposed to over DP).

Anyway, that's what was added in HDMI 2.0a so the RX480 did not initially have 2.0a as I thought. But it did have HDMI 2.0.

EDIT 2: Wrong again, from the discussion of that same article: https://www.techpowerup.com/img/16-11-18/b745733b3c78.jpg

Apparently it came with 2.0b (not even 2.0a) from day 1. That whole fuss was about an HDMI limitation that prevents 10-bit HDR at specifically 4K@60Hz due to bandwidth limitations (HDMI not fast enough).

I'm going to stop now, it seems like I'm having a conversation with myself.
 
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