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AMD RX 580 and RX 560 leak

Journey said:
Sorry to sound very noobish, what are the alternatives if neither of those take the reigns as the new standard? I mean DX11 has been around since 2008/9 and DX12 only since 2015 yet people seem to be writing it off already. Are games devs really going to be using decade old API's etc.?
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DirectX 11 is still fully supported and updated in tandem with 12. Broadly speaking it still gets new features, without the extra work (and related performance gains) of 12.
 
Asa said:
DirectX 11 is still fully supported and updated in tandem with 12. Broadly speaking it still gets new features, without the extra work (and related performance gains) of 12.
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I thought 11.3 hadn't seen the light of day yet, and we were still on 11.2 from 2013, I know the Xbox is on 11.X but does that apply to PC's also?

EDIT: Ignore me, I got 11.3 mixed up that was out with 12 wasn't it, DOH!
 
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I'm reading stuff where people are saying the 580 is a disappointment but if it has a little extra oomph that put's it ahead of the 1060 and Nvidia can't do anything with the 1060 except add faster memory and wait for the next gen it should sell well, Obviously it's not for 480 owners but still, last time around the high end got nothing this time around the high end gets something and the mid range has too wait. There's nothing bad about that if it beats the competition..
 
I dont see the big deal tbh, company's refresh, re brand or whatever all the time, i doubt many with 480s will pick up a 580 but if its similar price to launch 480s then it gives people building from new or people with even older cards another option. I highly doubt its going to trouble nvidia too much as the 480 already competed with the 1060, vega may be different. Dont the 500 series launch tomorrow anyway so Im sure we will see soon enough.
 
nashathedog said:
I'm reading stuff where people are saying the 580 is a disappointment but if it has a little extra oomph that put's it ahead of the 1060 and Nvidia can't do anything with the 1060 except add faster memory and wait for the next gen it should sell well, Obviously it's not for 480 owners but still, last time around the high end got nothing this time around the high end gets something and the mid range has too wait. There's nothing bad about that if it beats the competition..
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480 been out for 10 months, personally i have no issue for this rebrand, because feature wise the 480 doesn't seem to lack anything important, the extra clockspeed is a plus, but i said it would be a disapointement if as rumored, the 500series comes with a price bump of 20-30$, but if the price stays the same or drop a bit it's all good.
 
pricing is key, as it always is with things like this, with any luck they come in around the £200 and the 480s get a nice drop in price and I might just go crossfire, asking too much maybe?
 
Mickcas said:
pricing is key, as it always is with things like this, with any luck they come in around the £200 and the 480s get a nice drop in price and I might just go crossfire, asking too much maybe?
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Asking too much, looking at the prices I've seen it would seem that you will be looking at £230 for an RX 580, remember this is still competing against the 1060 6GB cards.
 
No way in hell I am paying close to $300 for RX 480 opps 580 though. Screw that.

Prices have got silly.

D1craig said:
is it really a rebrand as we know it? we have seen the result of the matured process in these newer XFX cards.
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Apparently it is a revision of the GPU. I think I saw it quoted as being revision E for the 580.
 
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Mickcas said:
Very true but its the price of the 480 I'm more concerned with, if they go down I may pick up a second strix480
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You'll probably find some offers floating around after a couple of weeks once the stock makes it's way through to the channel vendors, and the rebates start filtering through from manufacturers.
 
D1craig said:
is it really a rebrand as we know it? we have seen the result of the matured process in these newer XFX cards.
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The new 3dgen 14nm FF+ process lowers productions costs but keeps power consumption and performance the same according to Samsung and GF.
 
D.P. said:
The new 3dgen 14nm FF+ process lowers productions costs but keeps power consumption and performance the same according to Samsung and GF.
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You would imagine they have found some power savings as they have upped the clocks and Oem designs are said to be running at over 1400 mhz. I would imagine to get there on 480's you would have to up the voltage a decent amount using way more power than AMD would want v a gtx1060 which sips power.
 
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