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AMD RX 580 and RX 560 leak

the good thing no price hike, the bad thing nothing over 1500mhz OC and would have been better if there was a small price cut, but there is none, so 500series is as Meh as it gets.
beside the performance doesn't seem to scale up well passed 1300mhz, just huge power draw versus very small performance gains, the glofo process hit a hard wall, hope they find a solution for Vega.
 
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The new node only offers reduced costs, performance and power consumption are identical according to GF and Samsung.
AMD fans insulted when i said that RX 480 will not be any different than RX 480 ,however, even i am wrong and it is even more worse.
 
Still, it shows AMD have the capability of making a larger Polaris 10 and just aren't going to. Maybe they're happy with where it sits in their range and a bigger Polaris might intrude too closely on an upcoming small Vega?

A 44CU card (vs 36 on P10) could offer up to 25% more performance at the same clocks, but it would also mean something like 225W TDP for a 6+8pin.

Maybe they could've dropped the clock at 1200MHz and have similar performance for the same power consumption and a lot more OC room. But then I guess we'd go from a 232 mm2 chip to around 300... Yields might mean less money.

I'm beginning to think that a 4096 version Polaris would be ridiculously power-hungry which is why AMD refrained from doing one.
 
Well Vega is supposedly a totally different design, including Tiled Renderer, and uses HBM2.

So it could very well only draw 30-40W more, but be twice the performance.

Plus, I think they've already confirmed it's 225W TDP? Or is that just leaks.

Anyway, people are expecting Vega to be <=225 which is not too bad if the performance is right...
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I'm tempted to add a "Poor Volta" onto this GIF.
 
They're selling so many of these that GloFo can't keep up! :eek:

Seriously though, this is interesting. If it turns out to be true, it'd mean that GloFo's process is not that bad. People kept thinking that Samsung could make a difference but this doesn't seem to be the case...

Or the Samsung one is bad. :P

I mean AMD's making the console SoCs at TSMC using 16nm, and look what NVIDIA has managed as well.
 
Seems AMD is also using Samsung to make the GPUs of the Polaris line:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeo...65939/News/AMD-Polaris-14LPP-Samsung-1225917/

beside the performance doesn't seem to scale up well passed 1300mhz, just huge power draw versus very small performance gains, the glofo process hit a hard wall, hope they find a solution for Vega.

According to the above they may already be producing at both GloFo and Samsung, with little difference in performance. It would seem that the 'wall' is not GloFo's fault, but rather just a limitation of the process.

The solution may very well be to produce Vega at TSMC...
 
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