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I said their name 8 (yes eight!) times in the mirror in my bathroom earlier and a flippin 3080 appeared!! Scared the hell outta me !
P.s. no idea what name or store the thread/post was about so I aint referencing anything outside these forums before the sausage party arrives.
They spent so much on those 3080s, you would be very strongly motivated to justify the expense. No way 10Gb is going to be enough for future games, it's not enough for some current games!I can't believe that thread "10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss.." is almost at 50 pages and they are still arguing about it instead of using their cards to game. Sat there watching cached memory in most cases
For someone who intends to watercool their card is there any reason to get an AIB rather than an AMD card? Or for that matter, any reason to get a more expensive AIB card? Are there going to be any material differences outside of the cooler that will effect overclockability?
A question Im asking myself too, what has better PCB and bin quality? I dont know truth be told.
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I read that sapphire make all the reference cards, so should be decent, as they are one of the best AMD brands.
I read the same on multiple sites, I'm still wondering if the AIB's get lesser bin parts like Nvidia does to its 'partners' and if true does an improved PCB from the AIB's make up for a better water cooled overclock on the 6000 series?
OC cards would have the better bin quality, so the reference and normal AIB cards would be luck of the draw.
Any board partner will save the better binned chips for their OC models.
Ahh sorry to clarify, Nvidia saved the best chips for their FE, even the OC AIB versions of the Ampere range are downgrade bin parts from the FE.
I was wondering if AMD does the same? and if so does the improved PCB of the AIB cards make up for a better overall overclock on Water cooling?
we'll see. in consoles (and soon on PC through DirectStorage) we're moving into a new pipeline where VRAM functions more like a cache than ever before, becoming a mid point between rendered assets and gen 4 SSDs. speed might be more important than overall size and in that case DDR6x has a 30% advantage over DDR6.
that said history tells us that the first implementation of a new standard rarely makes full use of it.
Ah yes, it has been said that Nvidia do that, and definitely seemed to be the case last generation.
I have no idea whether AMD do the same, so I guess the only way to guarantee it would to buy an OC model. We might be lucky with the architecture being relatively mature, meaning that every chip will lean towards the higher side; this is what happened with the Nvidia chips.
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Noticed several people are talking about water cooling. Doing so will reduce leakage so will save power due to reduced operating temps. In turn allowing the card to maintain higher clocks.
To get good results I'd not have less than a 360mm rad for just the GPU with a strong pump, d5 ideally.
I've just sold my Readon VII which ran at 32c edge temp in a 18c room max. Stock 1800mhz with a 950mv undervolt. My loop is massive though, 3* 360mm, 1* 120mm rads and d5 pump running at 4000rpm. Noctua fans all fixed on the speed reduction labels to 800rpm.
So water-cooling is very beneficial but at a substantial cost if starting from scratch.
To get good results I'd not have less than a 360mm rad for just the GPU with a strong pump, d5 ideally.
I've just sold my Readon VII which ran at 32c edge temp in a 18c room max. Stock 1800mhz with a 950mv undervolt. My loop is massive though, 3* 360mm, 1* 120mm rads and d5 pump running at 4000rpm. Noctua fans all fixed on the speed reduction labels to 800rpm.
So water-cooling is very beneficial but at a substantial cost if starting from scratch.
Caporegime
Crazy low temps
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I'm sure you remember all the hassle I had with the alphacool block. The EKWB block really did the trick though. Even in the summer when the UK got slightly warm lol, it only hit 35/36c edge temp when the loop equilised. It a shame Nvidia don't quote there junction temps on the ampere silicon, it would be interesting to know what the centre of the 3090 package is lol.
Caporegime
Yes it would, and no doubt there’s a reason that is not exposed to the end user.
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My VII on the block was 65c with an edge of 32c. So will be into 3 figures for sure!Yes it would, and no doubt there’s a reason that is not exposed to the end user.
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