If you want to do a quick easy ram OC then just manually set voltage to 1.45-1.50 change speed to 3600mhz and lower trfc to around 288 although realistically any ram OC improvements would be very minor at 1440p with the X3D which due to the large cache doesn't need to dip into the ram much.Okay so, I have been playing about with my 5800x3d on an Asus Tuf Plus B550m, on the new Agesa 1.2.0.7.
New Bios are out for ASUS boards x570/b550 for Agesa 1.2.0.7
2 things that came up
1) One thing is clear apart from how fast and efficient the 5800x3d is in gaming, I need to put some time into working out how to get to overclocking my Team group Dark Pro 3200 cl14 with good secondary timings, I have already tried using via some guidance from Dram Calculator, but that's for previous Ryzen gens
I bought these 2 sets of 2x16Gb 3200 cl14 2 years apart from OCUK, and my newer set has a base speed of 2444 while the original 2x8Gb kit had a base speed of 2133.
If anyone knows a guide on how to overclock b-die ram (mixed albeit) on an Asus B550M Board please link. I'm better with MSI boards so this is new.
Don't get me wrong I can still set primary timings 16-16-16-16 32 and run it @ 3600 with Dram @ 1.42 volts and soc @ 1.1 v, but I just want to tighten the secondary timings up and even try for faster speeds but I need to know what to set in the Asus bios as it doesn't deal with failures as well as my previous MSI boards, i.e (you basically have to clear CMOS with means a battery pull for me every time)
2) I didn't check this prior to updating the bios from 1.2.06b to 1.2.0.7. However, on the latest Ryzen Master if you open it
and select Profile 1, or any profile for that matter, you will see at the top a new feature that I haven't seen before see below:
I/O Clock
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if you hover the mouse over it, it gives the following description
The clock at which the I/O hub controller communicates with the processor
Does Anyone have any ideas what this is for? Its not mentioned in the manual which makes me thing it purely for 5800x3d.
Word of Caution here: I set this at the Max 2500 on the profile and applied it (because i did not see any improvemnt @ 1000) and then could not get back into my pc, it booted and GPU is on but I never got into the bios. I got around this by taking the CMOS battery out and restarting it. then shut down the pc, put the cmos back in and restarted it.
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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - Go Go Go xD
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Do i get this or the 5950 x all i do is video editing vegas and prem
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5950X
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Definitely this. The most taxing thing I do is gaming so I went for the 5800X3D, if I did any sort of productivity of have gone 5900X or 5950X.
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Pretty useless though since he's got a 3900x system, and that comparison is a 12900K with DDR5 that costs more than the 5950x CPU. And you added nothing to answering the question that was asked at all.
I showed the 12900k in certain professional scenarios is a better option. Time is money.
Remember that Alder Lake supports both DDR4 and DDR5. If budget is a concern then ~£200 for a DDR4 board and an extra £50 for the 12900k over a 5950X. Not bad for up to 20% more performance and a possible upgrade path to at least Raptor Lake.
Maybe learn about the hardware before gum flapping.
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Soldato
Totally hilarious, not.
Except when it isn't, has the the user stated that time is money or they use it to make money, no you are making assumptions.
Find out some facts before gum flapping.
Totally hilarious, not.
Except when it isn't, has the the user stated that time is money or they use it to make money, no you are making assumptions.
Find out some facts before gum flapping.
Forgetting future upgrades, let's agree if it's important on a professional basis then what I posted is relevant as it may allow upto a 20% performance improvement. If not then purchasing a cheaper EOL upgrade that's up to 20% slower is a good idea in your head
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Forgetting future upgrades, let's agree if it's important on a professional basis then what I posted is relevant as it may allow upto a 20% performance improvement. If not then purchasing a cheaper EOL upgrade that's up to 20% slower is a good idea in your head
So what you are saying is anyone that has an AMD system and does productivity work, regardless if they might want to keep their system, should not do that and instead upgrade to an LGA1700 platform? Since that is what you are saying, and you are saying that 20% is across all the use cases presented? Be interesting to see this 20% average across the board in something like Vegas Pro which was one of the apps mentioned previously.
Interesting you should say about forgetting future upgrades, since that is perhaps what you would say based on someone who bought a 3900x, wanting to move to a new gen when it comes/came out. Why are you saying that future upgrades are good thing now, or will you tell them to dump the LGA1700 and go for a full new Zen4 build instead. You don't seem to know what you are talking about, stick to the GPU sub forum perhaps?
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When people Wang about 20% slower and it turns out to be 2 seconds.
Why go with the obvious substantial drop in upgrade when you can change your whole platform.
Why go with the obvious substantial drop in upgrade when you can change your whole platform.
When you change the subject like Intel fans do, don't debate stuff with them.
You buy the 5800x3D simply because its the fastest cpu for gamers in the world.
You want productivity you buy a 5950x and gibbo has a good deal on such.
No one really buys Intel anymore.
anyhow, soon time to upgrade to a 5800x3D, cant wait for it and next generation amd radeon cards.
Indeed, I don't need that hassle, use it for work currently, and I'm happy with more power, I don't need to have the best available for what I do.When people Wang about 20% slower and it turns out to be 2 seconds.
Why go with the obvious substantial drop in upgrade when you can change your whole platform.
No. What I was 'saying', after correctiing you on the memory, was that a 12900k is generaly better for video editing than a 5950X, and as a plus, has an upgrade path. There is no reason that he can't keep the rest of his system if he swaps motherboard and CPU.
Perhaps stick to crayons...
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Oh yes, just swap the motherboard and the CPU, and lose a huge chunk of the gained performance as you no longer have the DDR5 that is offering a lot of the uplift. Sheesh man, you really don't have a clue.
I've seen this argument going around. Max out a 12900K system "it's the fastest" that's why you buy it. Build 12900K system but use DDR4 because it then competes on cost. It can't do both at the same time. It's either the fastest no matter the cost or it's slower. I'll stick with my 5800X3D until AM5 is full mature, it may even last me until AM6
I'm not an Intel fan. I almost bought the 5950X myself for a new dev box before Christmas, but held off for the 3D cache chips. I was disappointed that only the 8core model was getting the cache so ended up with Intel a couple of months ago.
BTW. the subject I replied to was Premier and Vegas usage.
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How about do the drop in upgrade now and change the platform next time round, then he also has an upgrade path, he just doesn't need it now. hm?