AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[malccy]

May I ask how well does the <Auto> setting work for the scaler setting as am unsure myself which number to choose?

 

[ED209]

May I ask how well does the <Auto> setting work for the scaler setting as am unsure myself which number to choose?

I changed to 10 and so far so good, its still booting and does what I want

 

[subroutine]

I used the Buildzoid settings and the latency has dropped to 69ns. Thanks for your help.

I had some weird screen flashing on my 9800x3d using those settings with the igpu and a google indicated I' not the only one with that issue. Raising the tRAS from 28 to 38 fixed it without raising latency.

 

[Grim5]

Amd says it takes 13 weeks to manufacture a 9800x3d so it will take time to ramp up supply

 

[McCarthy]

In terms of curve shaper, is this something you do instead of a per core optimiser, or as well as?

How are people stress testing?

Sorry I’m out of the loop lately.

 

[GoRedwings19]

In terms of curve shaper, is this something you do instead of a per core optimiser, or as well as?

How are people stress testing?

Sorry I’m out of the loop lately.

I just use per core optimiser to hit 5450. If I want to go above it I use curve shaper. But I have wound mine back to to 5200. I just like the cool and quiet running operation more than the extra 250 or so.

It was fun the first few weeks but after that I kinda lost interest.

I use cb23 for a quick and dirty stress test then I go aida64 then occt then prime95.

 

[Varys]

I just use per core optimiser to hit 5450. If I want to go above it I use curve shaper. But I have wound mine back to to 5200. I just like the cool and quiet running operation more than the extra 250 or so.

It was fun the first few weeks but after that I kinda lost interest.

I use cb23 for a quick and dirty stress test then I go aida64 then occt then prime95.

How are you going above 5425? Settings please? What's your R23 scores?

 

[RBImGuy]

sis kid bought a 9800x3d so now he has a better computer than me.
I still beat his 6800 though
the 50+ they had on stock yesterday, sold out today

 

[GoRedwings19]

How are you going above 5425? Settings please? What's your R23 scores?

I have aboard with asynchronous clock aka eclk

 

[Varys]

I have aboard with asynchronous clock aka eclk

Oh I don't have eclk

 

[GoRedwings19]

Oh I don't have eclk

Well I mean it fun but you are better off staying at 5450. One of the downsides I found was that my cpu wouldn't downclock any more below 4.8ghz. Maybe there was a setting I missed but I wound it back to normal now. Although it was mega lulz watching it either running at 4.8 idle or 5.6 full tilt.

 

[McCarthy]

I just use per core optimiser to hit 5450. If I want to go above it I use curve shaper. But I have wound mine back to to 5200. I just like the cool and quiet running operation more than the extra 250 or so.

It was fun the first few weeks but after that I kinda lost interest.

I use cb23 for a quick and dirty stress test then I go aida64 then occt then prime95.

Good to know there is an extra tool available to use.

What I don’t understand is if you have say 20 all core curve optimiser stable, then you move onto curve shaper, wouldn’t any value you set affect stability in curve optimiser?

I may be wrong, but is it not difficult to use two different methods?

I have watched a few YouTube videos regarding this, however they pretty much just show their values they input instead of a starting point and stress testing info.

 

[henson0115]

Good to know there is an extra tool available to use.

What I don’t understand is if you have say 20 all core curve optimiser stable, then you move onto curve shaper, wouldn’t any value you set affect stability in curve optimiser?

I may be wrong, but is it not difficult to use two different methods?

I have watched a few YouTube videos regarding this, however they pretty much just show their values they input instead of a starting point and stress testing info.

as far as i understand, the shaper is to refine the optimiser, for example in my case i use -20 all core optimiser (although its stable) i could say under full load require -16 instead and so in the shaper rather than generically change the whole thing to -16, i can optimize it based on load and put an overide of -16 on full load and then tweak down the curve to suit. i hope that this makes sense, although i don't use it at all.

 

[McCarthy]

as far as i understand, the shaper is to refine the optimiser, for example in my case i use -20 all core optimiser (although its stable) i could say under full load require -16 instead and so in the shaper rather than generically change the whole thing to -16, i can optimize it based on load and put an overide of -16 on full load and then tweak down the curve to suit. i hope that this makes sense, although i don't use it at all.

So it’s more of giving more of an overhead in certain loads. A bit more of a fine tuning.

I was wondering if you could use curve shaping without curve optimiser and get the same results, but that’s something I will have to play around with when I finally get my system built.

Thanks for the info.

 

[henson0115]

So it’s more of giving more of an overhead in certain loads. A bit more of a fine tuning.

I was wondering if you could use curve shaping without curve optimiser and get the same results, but that’s something I will have to play around with when I finally get my system built.

Thanks for the info.

from my understand yes for your 1st question, in regards to the second I'm not sure as i haven't tried it myself. but maybe someone who has will come along and answer that one for you.

 

[opethdisciple]

Will I see any gains upgrading my 5800x3d to a 9800x3d at 4k?

I've seen benchmarks (which I cant find now) that show that the gains are very minimal.

But I see some people on here suggest otherwise.

When I look at these benchmarks it looks like it absolutely isn’t worth it with a performance gain of about 2%

 

[henson0115]

its mainly the mins that are improved, however the 9800x3d is the suggested cpu now for high end gpus, especially with the lack of availability of 5800x3d and price gouging due to availability. also wouldn't rely on 1 test set of data.

 

[LtMatt]

Will I see any gains upgrading my 5800x3d to a 9800x3d at 4k?

I've seen benchmarks (which I cant find now) that show that the gains are very minimal.

But I see some people on here suggest otherwise.

When I look at these benchmarks it looks like it absolutely isn’t worth it with a performance gain of about 2%

If you are completely GPU limited, you will see very little. If there are games where your GPU utilisation is dropping below 95%, you might expect to see larger gains.

 

[Capitano]

Will I see any gains upgrading my 5800x3d to a 9800x3d at 4k?

I've seen benchmarks (which I cant find now) that show that the gains are very minimal.

But I see some people on here suggest otherwise.

When I look at these benchmarks it looks like it absolutely isn’t worth it with a performance gain of about 2%

Average fps you won’t but the 1% lows are likely to see a pretty big increase in most games so it’ll feel smoother.

But if you’re gaming solely at 4K you’re better off spending more on the GPU but it really is game dependant

 

[Burtoner]

Can I ask what the most popular mobos and ram people are using with this 9800x3d?