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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

Hostile_18 said:
It's likely only preorder only here from what the rep told someone earlier in this thread.
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Havent seen any rep mentioning availability on here just that someone called OCUk and was told they had a lot on order. If other etailers have day one stock OCUk will also i am sure and they cannot comment because of NDA.

Feels like thsi is the first CPU order for a lot of people on here, its the same every launch. "When are reviews up," and "When can i order". Answers are always the same, reviews the day before launch at 2PM and product listed and available (most of the time) 2PM on day of launch. Pretty much the same for all brands CPU's and Graphics cards with a few exceptions (intel had preorders up before reviews as they knew there new generations was FUBAR).

If you are lucky and keep an eye on the forums you will occasionally get a link to order 10 - 15 mins early.
 
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keyser van someone said:
The power and temps don't add up on TechPowerup.
Gaming power and gaming temps:
7800X3D 46W 69.2C
9800X3D 65W 60.8C

"Temperature testing on this page uses air-cooling, for consistency and to show comparable results. All performance testing on the other pages is done using an Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III liquid cooling solution that keeps temperatures well below all limits, to ensure there is no thermal throttling."

edit: ok LTT review explains, more power draw but better temps. I have some reading/watching to do :)

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LTT is literally the last place I'd go for serious hardware reviews.
 
cliffy said:
Havent seen any rep mentioning availability on here just that someone called OCUk and was told they had a lot on order. If other etailers have day one stock OCUk will also i am sure and they cannot comment because of NDA.

Feels like thsi is the first CPU order for a lot of people on here, its the same every launch. "When are reviews up," and "When can i order". Answers are always the same, reviews the day before launch at 2PM and product listed and available (most of the time) 2PM on day of launch. Pretty much the same for all brands CPU's and Graphics cards with a few exceptions (intel had preorders up before reviews as they knew there new generations was FUBAR).

If you are lucky and keep an eye on the forums you will occasionally get a link to order 10 - 15 mins early.
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Surely NDA would also apply to graphics cards and there is never a problem with advanced warning there? Also AMD announced the price and date, so the only NDA bit would be confirming inventory? Which seems odd to me.
 
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All NDAs can be different, we'd assume its in OCUKs interest to let us know, but they dont seem to have, which could indicate either something is stopping them or they hate us and dont want your money.
 
Hostile_18 said:
Surely NDA would also apply to graphics cards and there is never a problem with advanced warning there? Also AMD announced the price and date, so the only NDA bit would be confirming inventory? Which seems odd to me.
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Not sure we ever get told time for the graphics cards just teh day which we already know for the 9800X3D although i do remember us being told "plentry of stock" or "limited availabilty" ahewad of schedule on some launches biuut we do not know the details of thsi NDA as they are probably all different

Either way all questions will be answered by 2PM ish tomorrow
 
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Vertigo said:
LTT is literally the last place I'd go for serious hardware reviews.
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I'm also not a fan of someone trying to talk about a technical subject or review a complicated product when they are just reading off a script someone did for them. Linus did not test or play with this CPU, someone else gave him piece of paper and he reads it on camera - it comes across as really disingenuous

With channels like gamers nexus, HUB, at least the person talking about the review is still the person who tested it and that makes it sound more authentic and that really comes across in the review
 
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but not necessarily wrong. although I'd go to GN or HUB before LTT even though the latter probably have a comparable/better test setup. i enjoy their light and general tech content but hardward reviews are, for me, lacking.
 
Hostile_18 said:
I just read that review. To be honest when you take the price into consideration I'm not sure it's entirely wrong. For 4k gaming I think you'd be better getting the 9700x and saving £140?
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4K gaming with what GPU? If you look at the total system cost you will quickly understand that £140 is not much at all relative to the advantage of so much more CPU grunt when you need it (and you will). penny-wise, pound-foolish etc
 
Grim5 said:
With channels like gamers nexus, HUB, at least the person talking about the review is still the person who tested it and that makes it sound more authentic and that really comes across in the review
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Yeah, their overly complicated workflow and automation has taken something away :o

If their benchmarks were really extensive and offered something more compared to other reviews then I guess that can justify it. For example: it is nice to see they don't only test at 1080p.
 
At least we know there won't be a shortage. Bodes well for patient customers. Can probably see it for under £400 next year. :cool:

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Poneros said:
4K gaming with what GPU? If you look at the total system cost you will quickly understand that £140 is not much at all relative to the advantage of so much more CPU grunt when you need it (and you will). penny-wise, pound-foolish etc
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That £140 still might mean the difference of going from a 4070S >> 4070ti super >> 4080S with each step up offering jumps of 16% GPU performance at 4k


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At least we know there won't be a shortage. Bodes well for patient customers. Can probably see it for under £400 next year. :cool:

GbteOOIX0A4IR12
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Those are probably all the 9700X that have been piling up since launch as no one wanted them.
 
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Joxeon said:
5700X3D is all you need at 4k especially if your running anything under a 4090.
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True, but I don't particularly want to keep an already 5 year old system for many more years to come. I hate upgrading piece by piece, probably from a time when I did that and over the years had parts fail on me due to age and in the end wished I had just done a full upgrade all at once.
Also want more ram for simulators etc, and feels silly to buy DDR4 nowadays and keep buying older hardware.
 
Hostile_18 said:
I just read that review. To be honest when you take the price into consideration I'm not sure it's entirely wrong. For 4k gaming I think you'd be better getting the 9700x and saving £140?
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I agree with the price part, it's not cheap, but it's also the fastest gaming CPU out there... so to give it 2 stars to me is just moronic, that's basically saying it's a bad product akin to Arrow lake.
I think 4 stars with a disclaimer that it's extremely expensive and there are possibly better deals out there would have been much fairer.
 
Excellent performance in Homeworld 3:

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More than double that of the 12900K in 1% lows.

At the moment, it destroys the Ultra 9 285K.

It does well in Starfield also. It’s the best CPU in pretty much every single game, at least the ones Techspot tested.
 
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Rob_B said:
1080p shows the actual differences in CPUs so is technically correct in my eyes, but, I game at 1440p so would like to see those benches more than 1080p

BUT

look at Steam hardware surveys, 57% of people game at 1080p so reviewers are really showing the most.used.optoon so its hard to complain. also a stromg CPU at 1080p now will remain strong in a few years vs one that is weaker now, so again, long term its probably a good metric.

For those of us gaming over 1080p, reviews exist that show this, so pay attention to them, its not hard.
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This is true, however also looking at the Steam hardware survey most people don't have 4090s, or anything close to it. The xx60 range cards seem to be most popular, so it's quite possible that with a lot of these games people will be bottlenecked by the GPU at lower resolutions. So if going by what's popular is the idea then why are they using top end graphics cards?
Also based on Steam results the top 5 games (by peak) are "Counterstrike", "PUBG", "Dota 2", "NARAKA: BLADEPOINT" and "Banana". I'm not sure how bottlenecked some of those games are going to be by any recent CPU, but they didn't bother to test most of these (in the review I saw).

But as someone else said, it depends what you're upgrading from, it probably wasn't intended as an upgrade for 7800X3D owners. Still if buying new the 7800X3D might still be worth considering instead as it's probably a decent bit cheaper and from the HUB review it looks like it uses less power and we know what a big deal power draw is when it comes to CPUs!
 
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