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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
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Maybe a stupid question, but from the screenshots it looks like they're all testing different areas of the game ? So why would the frame-rates be consistent ?
I think you mean HuB and Techspot are identical
and there is a simple explanation. Steve from HuB provides written CPU/GPU reviews on Techspot, so it is the same data
Soldato
nah, I don't need to upgrade, o'm happy with the 7800x3d
Caporegime
First bench for you degenerates.My first sample arrived. SP112, possible indication of not the strongest cores. That said, appears to have a nice strong IMC. 8300C34 low VDD tune right off the bat looking good.
Excuse the finger print.
I did some benchmarks on Cyber and FC6 on my 9950X before I pulled it out last night, so will have something to compare to.
PBO -49 All core.
CB23
If you fix a CPU like the 7800X3D or 9800X3D at a clock rate of 5.0Ghz, does this have much impact on 0.1% lows?
EDIT - might need to be ~4.8ghz on a 7800X3D, due to voltage limits.
E.g. do fluctuations in clockrate on AMD CPUs, have much impact on framerate consistency or microstutters?
Or is the main factor for higher 0.1% lows usually the GPU?
EDIT - might need to be ~4.8ghz on a 7800X3D, due to voltage limits.
E.g. do fluctuations in clockrate on AMD CPUs, have much impact on framerate consistency or microstutters?
Or is the main factor for higher 0.1% lows usually the GPU?
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Caporegime
Only CB stable that. Games seem happy at -40 but still Figuring the chip out.-49
Man of Honour
Time to upgrade my 3900X i think and i think the 9800X3D will do nicely considering im playing more games lately!
Did anyone actually buy one? they were all on pre-order by the time i saw them... i wonder how long the wait will be?
Did anyone actually buy one? they were all on pre-order by the time i saw them... i wonder how long the wait will be?
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I stopped using Asus when they asked me to provide 10 quid in cash as part of an RMA for return postage... seriously?
I had bought a b650 Gigabyte board but it's refusing to let me flash the bios using flashback before the CPU comes and is on such an old bios there is no way it will support the 9800x3d. so sending it back.
Now Getting my first MSI board, an X870 tomahawk, seems to be one of the only brands that doesn't nerf the main PCIe slot if you dare to use the M.2 slots.
I'm not paying 300 quid for a pcie x8 slot lol. not sure what Gigabyte and Asus are thinking?
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thousands of us did... many of us within the first few minutes of being able to. Sadly scalpers raided other sites as well as Ebay is already full of them (even though they clearly don't have them in hand yet) so gonna be a long wait sadly.
I dread to think what the Next Nvidia launch will be like.
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Man of Honour
oh well I've waited for ages a few more months won't harm 
I don't think those cases are Mhz is key. That is memory.
Look at factorio. If the data set fits within the L3 v-cache the X3D parts are miles faster. If you keep growing though the 14900K can catch up and overtake due to lower memory latency.
We see similar with Stellaris benches. Initial testing at the start of the game shows the X3D parts being miles faster than anything else but by the time you get towards end game that difference is a lot smaller as the data set exceeds the v-cache amount (although the 9800X3D does still do the best in that title by a margin so there is more to it than just pure memory latency or bandwidth).
That is why these titles are really interesting to test because where is the cross over point? Is the X3D part actually the best in the heaviest scenarios in those games? We don't know because they are rarely tested.
The other thing is those games work on potato GPUs so they are also use cases where someone who primarily plays those games (and then dabbles in AAA games that strike their fancy) will be better off spending more on CPU than on GPU.
We see this in ACC where even at 4K the X3D parts absolutely dominate everything else. I think similar happens in iRacing but that is less frequently tested. The interesting question in iRacing or ACC though is does that apply when you are in a race with 20 other people and you have a lot of networking going on as well as the game.
Who really cares about 10 sites testing different areas of starfield when nobody really plays it when we have actual questions that could really do with answers in games that are a lot lot more popular and that are not just fleeting popular but are popular for years and years (Civ 5 has more players on steam than Hogwarts, Hitman, Jedi Survivor, Star Wars Outcasts and many other games that you frequently see in gaming suites and that is a 14 year title that is competing with Civ 6).
Current game suits in CPU tests are simply not broad enough to cover a decent chunk of the actual gaming landscape. It would be like a site doing a productivity test suite but instead of having 3D renderers, encoding, adobe suite, compression / decompression, office suite tests they just test 10 3d Renderers and call that a productivity suite, it is clearly a nonsense.
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I currently use a 3700x and also love emulation, so much stuttering at the moment. I can't wait. I think people forget there are uses for a high end CPU other than AAA high FPS gaming. My (legally acquired) switch emulated games are gonna run like silk.with this.I'm into emulation as well and stuck on 5800 non x3d
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review - The Best Gaming Processor
The Ryzen 7 9800X3D establishes AMD as the leader in gaming performance. This Zen 5-based X3D chip is not only fast, it also comes with full support for overclocking. Besides gaming, application performance is considerably improved over the 7800X3D, but that comes at a price.www.techpowerup.com
Should get a substantial boost there.
With my 5800x I can mostly sustain around 60fps on God of War III rpcs3. But it often dips below. Looking forward to a sustained 60fps minimum. Hoping anyway. Can't wait to do loads of testing (the fun part!) next week.
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Thanks for the info! This is what I was asking about recently but I thought only the Godlike did the USB 4/PCIE M.2 lane sharing.I stopped using Asus when they asked me to provide 10 quid in cash as part of an RMA for return postage... seriously?
I had bought a b650 Gigabyte board but it's refusing to let me flash the bios using flashback before the CPU comes and is on such an old bios there is no way it will support the 9800x3d. so sending it back.
Now Getting my first MSI board, an X870 tomahawk, seems to be one of the only brands that doesn't nerf the main PCIe slot if you dare to use the M.2 slots.
I'm not paying 300 quid for a pcie x8 slot lol. not sure what Gigabyte and Asus are thinking?
This seems perfect for my needs
I must admit I like my storage.
Not so much into overclocking so went for the Asrock X870E Nova. 5 nvme slots. No PCIe lane sharing although it does mean a disabled pcie slot since I'm using all 5. Won't be using it anyway. Already got them all filled
Not so much into overclocking so went for the Asrock X870E Nova. 5 nvme slots. No PCIe lane sharing although it does mean a disabled pcie slot since I'm using all 5. Won't be using it anyway. Already got them all filled
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I remember old cpu's used to be really slow at increasing clock rate, you could notice it just scrolling a web page up and down, it was super stuttery.
They say it's never an issue now, but I bet there is some effect however small.
Everyone recommends Balanced power profile these days, even with High Performance mode the cpu doesn't stay at max clock, so what is the purpose of choosing Balanced mode ?
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I dread to think what the Next Nvidia launch will be like.
The launch of the last two generations have been painful. The 30xx series launch especially so due to crazy demand from crypto miners at the time, not to mention post pandemic demand too. I was lucky enough to get a 3080 FE nearly 8 months after launch, and even then.. it was still shear luck!
While I was not able to get a 4090 FE card near launch, I was able to get an AIB within a few weeks, so things definitely improved with the 40xx generation.
Anyhow, it’s deeply disappointing to see scalpers moving in on the 9800X3D. Hopefully this will be short lived though as it looks like supply/demand for this part will stabilise from Dec.
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