AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[d_brennen]

Everyone recommends Balanced power profile these days, even with High Performance mode the cpu doesn't stay at max clock, so what is the purpose of choosing Balanced mode ?

It's a legacy Windows thing now really. CPUs have built in opportunistic boosting when there is power/thermal headroom. On desktop you aren't trying to eek out a work day of battery life so just let the CPU do it's thing.

I do miss overclocking, no low hanging fruit worth the effort now IMO

 

[torwak]

Unknown, but limited gains expected in gaming from tight 6000 timings.

Not true. 6200MT/s with the lowest CL is the king for 7800x3D and 9800x3D. Details are explained in the video.

 

[opethdisciple]

I just had a thought, you know how it is said that the higher the resolution the less important the cpu is and the more bottleneck you get from the GPU...

Well this might actually be slightly out of date logic now, because with things like DLSS and FSR rendering the game at a lower resolution and then upscaling the image does that mean that we are in essence rendering games at lower resolutions making the CPU more important again when talking about FPS?

 

[Legion]

My first sample arrived. SP112, possible indication of not the strongest cores. That said, appears to have a nice strong IMC. 8300C34 low VDD tune right off the bat looking good.



Excuse the finger print.

I did some benchmarks on Cyber and FC6 on my 9950X before I pulled it out last night, so will have something to compare to.

Asus B650E-E (4 dimm board) I just got 8000 working on a Teamgroup 6400 2x24M die kit. Yes those timings are horrific but I had no idea if it would even work lol.
I can have a play now and tighten up hehe.

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[Nutty667]

I just had a thought, you know how it is said that the higher the resolution the less important the cpu is and the more bottleneck you get from the GPU...

Well this might actually be slightly out of date logic now, because with things like DLSS and FSR rendering the game at a lower resolution and then upscaling the image does that mean that we are in essence rendering games at lower resolutions making the CPU more important again when talking about FPS?

Yes, if you use upscaling to boost frame-rates, then CPU usage will increase.

It's not as clear cut as with full frame-generation, as this isn't the same as a normal frame where the CPU has done all the updates, physics, collision and animation.
For example if you're running at 60fps normal, and turn on frame generation to get 90fps.. The CPU is still only processing 60 frames a second.

There will be some slight cpu increase from the driver I suspect with frame-generation, but not much.

 

[Hostile_18]

I must admit I like my storage.

Not so much into overclocking so went for the Asrock X870E Nova. 5 nvme slots. No PCIe lane sharing although it does mean a disabled pcie slot since I'm using all 5. Won't be using it anyway. Already got them all filled

Let us know your impressions of that board please. Does it feel premium? It seems almost too good to be true lol. Is there much purple in the build? I am tempted even though I shouldn't be!

 

[VincentHanna]

It might not matter to most, but the Nova doesn't have full bandwidth Wifi 7

 

[Michael Durrant]

 

[GamingRobioto]

I must admit I like my storage.

Not so much into overclocking so went for the Asrock X870E Nova. 5 nvme slots. No PCIe lane sharing although it does mean a disabled pcie slot since I'm using all 5. Won't be using it anyway. Already got them all filled

Same here, not an overclock fanatic, but I do dabble. But I also have 1 gen 5 SSD, 3 gen 4 and 1 gen 3 SSDs to slot in. Thr board was ideal, especially at the price point. I received mine last week and my first impressions on looks and build quality are very positive.

 

[RobTheTechEnthusiast]

I went with MSI MPG X870E Carbon Wifi partly just because it looks nice and I like all the convenience features, partly because of the rear I/O, and partly because it has a PCIe x4 slot you can actually use, which I might want for a Blackmagic Decklink card (for video colour grading).

That said, with USB 4 it might make sense to put something like that in an enclosure, especially as it has an annoying little fan. I need to see how practical that is.

 

[LtMatt]

My first sample arrived. SP112, possible indication of not the strongest cores. That said, appears to have a nice strong IMC. 8300C34 low VDD tune right off the bat looking good.



Excuse the finger print.

I did some benchmarks on Cyber and FC6 on my 9950X before I pulled it out last night, so will have something to compare to.

First bench for you degenerates.

PBO -49 All core.

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Some Cyberpunk 2077 results, first run on a 9800X3D. Turbo mode disabled.

9800X3D SMT On Partially Tuned: 379.31 FPS

9950X SMT Off Fully Tuned: 315.13 FPS

Note: SMT Off for the 9950X is beneficial to performance in Cyberpunk 2077.

 

[Stanners]

Nice performance, I might upgrade the 7800X3D when they are back in stock.

 

[JediFragger]

Tempting but I'm gonna hold on for Zen6 X3D (for the proper 16c single CCD upgrade), unless I can drop on a nice one of these in 12 months for about £250ish (7800X3D cost me 230!)

 

[Nitefly]

Not true. 6200MT/s with the lowest CL is the king for 7800x3D and 9800x3D. Details are explained in the video.

This doesn’t show the benefits over 6000 CL30…?

Then, it does show only nominal benefits benefits (single digit frames) at 1080p where you are already over 200fps.

 

[Aurhinius]

Some Cyberpunk 2077 results, first run on a 9800X3D. Turbo mode disabled.

9800X3D SMT On Partially Tuned: 379.31 FPS

9950X SMT Off Fully Tuned: 315.13 FPS

Note: SMT Off for the 9950X is beneficial to performance in Cyberpunk 2077.

Nice that is quite a jump there. Cache is where it is at for gaming certainly

 

[LtMatt]

Nice that is quite a jump there. Cache is where it is at for gaming certainly

Okay so 6600Mhz/2200Mhz FCLK is faster. Not a surprise single CCD, now up to 382 on Cyber with 1:1 FCLK. More results to follow once I dial in 6600Mhz. Will try for 6800Mhz too.

 

[faceman123]

i wish AMD made the 9950x3d V cache on both sides would be insane

 

[Marak]

and is almost entirely due to customs issues (thanks Brexit..).

Are the chips coming from the EU? Would have thought they were coming from Asia or the US.

First bench for you degenerates.

PBO -49 All core.

Interested to know what undervolt people end up using with these chips, and how much benefit it brings.

 

[wookiee87]

i wish AMD made the 9950x3d V cache on both sides would be insane

it could very well be in the cards, if so bye bye intel

 

[Vakas]

Do you think the 9950X3D will be a big difference from the 9800X3D and will it be worth the figgejfr) difference