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AMD Six Core Prices and Clock Speeds Unearthed

seems odd that some people are seeing no point to this yet ?

isnt that a good thing.. you have speed for current apps better than a X4 BE Phenom and with OC ability and you have room for the next year or two for apps that really use the extra cores


what do people want ? something thats fully utilised now but has no future potencial as the software already beasts it :confused:


i dunno :rolleyes:
 
phill1978 said:
what do people want ? something thats fully utilised now but has no future potencial as the software already beasts it :confused:


i dunno :rolleyes:
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I tell you what i want , i want more GHZ on air cooling....thats what.

I use a lot of emulators that tear through CPU cycles and dont make much use of more than 2 cores and in the case of MAME makes no use whatsoever of Gfx Gpu's...for MAME there aint no substitute for raw GHZ....

For me, 6 cores at 3.4ghz is a step backwards from 2-4 cores at 4 Ghz.

a 5Ghz dual core chip is what i want.............:D
 
HeX said:
I want a CPU I can throw in and ignore for the next couple of years :D
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Should have bought a Q6600 then :p

Seriously though these do look as though they are going to be excellent value for money.

I may be tempted away from my Kentsfield if performance increases enough.
 
ManCuBuS said:
Should have bought a Q6600 then :p

Seriously though these do look as though they are going to be excellent value for money.

I may be tempted away from my Kentsfield if performance increases enough.
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Had one, two infact, used it for a long time.

Bought an i3 because I fancied a change and to have a play with the i-series without the i5/i7 price tag.

(and tbh the i3 is a stonkingly good CPU, surprised me greatly)

But this 6 core beasty is my next 'long term' CPU.
 
Cheers for the link, following thread. Pretty exciting, the price point he quoted even considering all possible exchange rates, 'asia' discounts and of course the great brit rippoff comes down to a very promising figure, 170-200 quid I reckon. Now we need the fool to wrap his head around not being bound by an NDA when buying retail and post some effin overclocks.


- Shijeer
 
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lol aye! - screw the NDA's :) :)

Not sure how the benchies he's done match up to existing scores from intel and amd - anyone?

I still can't believe people use stock HSF's either! - ain't used one of them for like 10years!

just paid off my credit card - muhahaha - think I can order from hong kong? ;)
 
zoomee said:
lol aye! - screw the NDA's :) :)

Not sure how the benchies he's done match up to existing scores from intel and amd - anyone?

I still can't believe people use stock HSF's either! - ain't used one of them for like 10years!

just paid off my credit card - muhahaha - think I can order from hong kong? ;)
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And to further complicate any fair comparison to a known frame of reference, apparently he's using a 32 bit OS for the benchies, this fact alone is likely to bias some of the results. We must tread carefully lest our conclusions end up being drawn premature.

Regardless, if they have started popping up in stores in some places it would be a fair assumption that some of the more prominent reviewers have already been sent a chip, I wouldn't be surprised if a few overviews pop up later this week. (depending on whether AMD had them bound by an NDA)


- Shijeer
 
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Me at 4000MHZ,

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Versus his 16.8GHZ 2GHZ NB, 2GHZ HTT.

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Well, he's planning to do some prime and 3dmark, but to be perfectly honest we pretty much expected this gen to not blow away the intel offerings outright, no surprise here even if true.

The overclock will either make or break the chip, it has to be all about bang-for-buck with this one. If reviews persistently point to a disappointing clocking ability, my next build is at serious risk of going to intel this time 'round.


- Shijeer
 
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Martini1991 said:
I'm going to throw a spanner in the works.

Unexplainable?
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Getting close :p but ... your voltage O.o are you under water ?

I have to admit though, can't comment much on the above due to a lack of familiarity with the that particular prog. But if that dude didn't go horribly wrong somewhere (not far-fetched at all given his posts) I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this particular test doesn't show us the whole picture. Or at least I hope so.


- Shijeer
 
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1.55v is fine for air.
But I'm on a smallish WC loop using fans on low.
Ironic that with a lower HT/NB I get a higher score..
Hmm.. I'll mess around tomorrow or something to try and beat his score.

But I seriously want to punch him in the face.
 
lol martini! - thanks for the comparison.

Unfortunately theres not many of us that can hit 4ghz with the current AMD chips (apart from the odd suicide run) - so in effect his scores ain't too bad at all. Bear in mind its 6x2.8Ghz (stock) v 4x4Ghz - your obviously going to have the upper hand dude for now dude - lest he starts overclocking (which unfortunately I doubt as he seems to be lacking in some areas :rolleyes: )
 
The chips probably won't clock as well as a quad anyway. The main benefit is those extra two cores. If you want crazy clockspeeds and good gaming performance, quad is a better choice I think.

Those benchmarks may be fairly reliant on the clock and not representative of pure power/operations per sec over all cores. Doesn't look like we'll be waiting long to get these.
 
zoomee said:
lol martini! - thanks for the comparison.

Unfortunately theres not many of us that can hit 4ghz with the current AMD chips (apart from the odd suicide run) - so in effect his scores ain't too bad at all. Bear in mind its 6x2.8Ghz (stock) v 4x4Ghz - your obviously going to have the upper hand dude for now dude - lest he starts overclocking (which unfortunately I doubt as he seems to be lacking in some areas :rolleyes: )
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Very good point, putting a chip stretched to the limit against something on stock everything and even then not quite making it looks pretty damn decent for the new chip. If an average batch of these babies can get anywhere near the 4 mark I'm sold. Hell, even 3.6 would we pretty sweet.

Logic would dictate that with 2 extra cores squeezed in there they must run a bit hotter, possibly translating into lower clocking potential. The question then becomes, do the 2 extra cores make up for the loss in potential overclock considering that the vast majority of applications (especially games) wont be using 6 cores anywhere near efficiently still for quite some time, let alone now.

All pure speculation of course.

But this hong kong dude is killing me, why him .... just.... why :rolleyes:


- Shijeer
 
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I was taking a dump, whipped out my phone and did some calculations.
Clock for clock they're the same.

Lets work this out.

9837 divided by 100 = 98.37

So, each percent = 98.37. 9447 / 98.37 = 96.035 (Then some numbers)

So, my score is 96.035 % of his, I.E, he's 4% (Rounded) than me.

I've got a total of 16GHZ, he's got a total of 16.8GHZ.

16.8GHZ / 100 = 168

16GHZ / 168 = 95.238

So, he's got 5% more processing power than me, yet only 4% faster.

So, we'll say, clock for clock, they're the same as the current Phenom II's.

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Look at his voltage though? When sorted, it's only 1.325v, which is impressive for the amount of cores he's running... So, they MAY have higher overclocking capabilites as the heat won't be that bad..
On the flipside, on that site, there's a 1090T with 1.2v at 3.2GHZ.. If the 1090T have low Vcore's, they'll be highly overclockable, as lower vid = higher overclocking..At least with the Phenom II's.
But, overall, these Thuban chips don't deserve the hype.. I'm maybe waiting till bulldozer now, unless the 1090T is capable of 4GHZ+.

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I think comparing Fritz results within the same chip series is a great measure of comparing...
 
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