AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X

smogsy · 24 Jun 2017 at 22:24

epc1 said:
I gave it a thought. Not all of the code I use
is parallelized so I also need high single core performance.

The i9 7900x seems to be on par with the 7700k in single thread
performance. So i think it is a good compromise.

true but you might been able to get 12 core at 4.0Ghz for possible £700.. but i hope you enjoy it

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Chuk_Chuk · 24 Jun 2017 at 22:27

epc1 said:
I gave it a thought. Not all of the code I use
is parallelized so I also need high single core performance.

The i9 7900x seems to be on par with the 7700k in single thread
performance. So i think it is a good compromise.

CFD code that isn't paralleized? Is it experimental or something?

DarrenM343 · 24 Jun 2017 at 22:28

epc1 said:
I gave it a thought. Not all of the code I use
is parallelized so I also need high single core performance.

The i9 7900x seems to be on par with the 7700k in single thread
performance. So i think it is a good compromise.

What Mobo did you go for? I can't stand the "gaming" advertising and flashy LED boards

epc1 · 24 Jun 2017 at 22:33

Chuk_Chuk said:
CFD code that isn't paralleized? Is it experimental or something?

I am doing a PhD in CFD. I contribute to an in house code from the university. Nothing commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo02xBzASRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo02xBzASRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pLtq6CKHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrIhYVxNGvA

DarrenM343 said:
What Mobo did you go for? I can't stand the "gaming" advertising and flashy LED boards

I went for the Strix

N19h7m4r3 · 24 Jun 2017 at 22:58

epc1 said:
I am doing a PhD in CFD. I contribute to an in house code from the university. Nothing commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo02xBzASRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pLtq6CKHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrIhYVxNGvA

I went for the Strix

Let us know how that Mobo handles and the CPU. Some temps recorded at stock during your compiling would be really helpful as well

epc1 · 24 Jun 2017 at 23:07

N19h7m4r3 said:
Let us know how that Mobo handles and the CPU. Some temps recorded at stock during your compiling would be really helpful as well

Will do

AllBodies · 25 Jun 2017 at 00:45

epc1 said:
Will do

To add to that, what cooler did you go with? Since that will help indicate the temperature situation.

epc1 · 25 Jun 2017 at 00:59

AllBodies said:
To add to that, what cooler did you go with? Since that will help indicate the temperature situation.

Corsair Hydro H100i GTX

gavinh87 · 25 Jun 2017 at 08:41

epc1 said:
Corsair Hydro H100i GTX

I hope you are not overclocking with that.

Panos · 25 Jun 2017 at 08:54

epc1 said:
Corsair Hydro H100i GTX

I assume you plan to run at stock speeds in a room with aircon by using that cooler.
Because overclocking is out of the question by using that, as it will struggle in these warm days even at stock speeds.

IMHO Predator 360 should be the absolute minimum on Skylake-X, assuming someone can find one.

Chuk_Chuk · 25 Jun 2017 at 08:58

epc1 said:
I am doing a PhD in CFD. I contribute to an in house code from the university. Nothing commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo02xBzASRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pLtq6CKHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrIhYVxNGvA

which algorithm is that?
Also, I'm guessing it is done in C (or some derivative)?

epc1 · 25 Jun 2017 at 09:07

Chuk_Chuk said:
which algorithm is that?
Also, I'm guessing it is done in C (or some derivative)?

We work with overlapping grids. You generate a background static grid
and a body fitted overlapping one for the moving object. Pressure-velocity
coupling is done with the SIMPLE algorithm. Two way fluid-solid interaction
is solved with a partitioned approach and coupled with a Picard
a Picard iteration algorithm. The code is written in C++.

Panos said:
I assume you plan to run at stock speeds in a room with aircon by using that cooler.
Because overclocking is out of the question by using that, as it will struggle in these warm days even at stock speeds.

IMHO Predator 360 should be the absolute minimum on Skylake-X, assuming someone can find one.

So are all 240mm out of the question? Or is it just that one? What about 280mm?

Got any other recommendation?

Panos · 25 Jun 2017 at 09:11

epc1 said:
We work with overlapping grids. You generate a background static grid
and a body fitted overlapping one for the moving object. Pressure-velocity
coupling is done with the SIMPLE algorithm. Two way fluid-solid interaction
is solved with a partitioned approach and coupled with a Picard
a Picard iteration algorithm. The code is written in C++.

So are all 240mm out of the question? Or is it just that one? What about 280mm?

Got any other recommendation?

On a CPU that consumes 460W on it's own under very heavy load? No. Custom watercooling only.

Chuk_Chuk · 25 Jun 2017 at 09:19

epc1 said:
We work with overlapping grids. You generate a background static grid
and a body fitted overlapping one for the moving object. Pressure-velocity
coupling is done with the SIMPLE algorithm. Two way fluid-solid interaction
is solved with a partitioned approach and coupled with a Picard
a Picard iteration algorithm. The code is written in C++.

So are all 240mm out of the question? Or is it just that one? What about 280mm?

Got any other recommendation?

Guessing your trying to find a more efficient way to solve for objects that are moving?
Also you're allowed more than 80 characters on the forum

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Undervolt and downclock, even though I guess that would go against the entire point of getting one.

smogsy · 25 Jun 2017 at 10:03

Panos said:
On a CPU that consumes 460W on it's own under very heavy load? No. Custom watercooling only.

Chuk_Chuk said:
Guessing your trying to find a more efficient way to solve for objects that are moving?
Also you're allowed more than 80 characters on the forum.

Undervolt and downclock, even though I guess that would go against the entire point of getting one.

this may not the case, but all the reviews was using ASUS motherboards & Intel claim they not seen this high CPU wattage. may find out that BIOS updates fix it.
as some reviews are seeing 1.4V+ on their chips at stock which is very odd

will see, but Temp/wattage may be fine on Release, (i would hope anyway)

if not x299 i wont be buying it will destroy my Slient build...

AllBodies · 25 Jun 2017 at 10:20

So just to double-check, do we have a definite date (or month) for Threadripper?

I couldn't remember if it's been said. I know Vega gaming launch is end of July at Siggraph.

smogsy · 25 Jun 2017 at 10:37

AllBodies said:
So just to double-check, do we have a definite date (or month) for Threadripper?

I couldn't remember if it's been said. I know Vega gaming launch is end of July at Siggraph.

Epyc is released in July, Alienware release their PC in July. with Threadripper so around end July beginning of Aug

Panos · 25 Jun 2017 at 10:38

AllBodies said:
So just to double-check, do we have a definite date (or month) for Threadripper?

I couldn't remember if it's been said. I know Vega gaming launch is end of July at Siggraph.

Around July 27th. Same date as Vega

kitfit1 · 25 Jun 2017 at 10:46

Panos said:
I assume you plan to run at stock speeds in a room with aircon by using that cooler.
Because overclocking is out of the question by using that, as it will struggle in these warm days even at stock speeds.

IMHO Predator 360 should be the absolute minimum on Skylake-X, assuming someone can find one.

Our hosts sell a very good 360 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...-liquid-cooling-upgrade-bundle-bu-098-tl.html I have one on my setup and temps are never an issue even when the fans are set to silence in the bios. Could well be an option for a Skylake-X setup as well.

epc1 · 25 Jun 2017 at 11:01

kitfit1 said:
Our hosts sell a very good 360 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...-liquid-cooling-upgrade-bundle-bu-098-tl.html I have one on my setup and temps are never an issue even when the fans are set to silence in the bios. Could well be an option for a Skylake-X setup as well.

Thanks. I will give Ouck a call tomorrow to see if they can change it