AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X

[epc1]

Guessing your trying to find a more efficient way to solve for objects that are moving?
Also you're allowed more than 80 characters on the forum.

Undervolt and downclock, even though I guess that would go against the entire point of getting one.

Yes. That's the aim of the project and to solve two way fluid-solid interaction as well

 

[8 Pack]

Thanks. I will give Ouck a call tomorrow to see if they can change it

This triple is often what we are using for Hpc 4U builds.

If noise OS not an issue run ocuk watercooling fans full speed.

We are working on cfd clusters for several high end customers if you need many boxes for your university get in touch with our b2b sales department. They can include binned delidded cpu's and high speed memory options as well as impi interface.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

this may not the case, but all the reviews was using ASUS motherboards & Intel claim they not seen this high CPU wattage. may find out that BIOS updates fix it.
as some reviews are seeing 1.4V+ on their chips at stock which is very odd

will see, but Temp/wattage may be fine on Release, (i would hope anyway)

if not x299 i wont be buying it will destroy my Slient build...

You would hope that, surely ASUS would at least be able to get there motherboard to run properly at stock speeds this late in the design phase. In fact surely ASUS wouldn't want people to be seeing their motherboards in such a terrible light. Going back to Ryzen, MB vendors said they got there samples really late, yet it was able to run fine at stock speeds. (Yes it did have bugs but I don't think they affected it at stock speeds, but correct me if i am wrong).
I think there is more to this issue than there appears.

So just to double-check, do we have a definite date (or month) for Threadripper?

I couldn't remember if it's been said. I know Vega gaming launch is end of July at Siggraph.

10th August is the latest rumors. https://videocardz.com/70248/kitguru-amd-ryzen-threadripper-to-launch-around-10th-of-august

Yes. That's the aim of the project and to solve two way fluid-solid interaction as well

Nice, Good Luck.

 

[zornyan]

You would hope that, surely ASUS would at least be able to get there motherboard to run properly at stock speeds this late in the design phase. In fact surely ASUS wouldn't want people to be seeing their motherboards in such a terrible light. Going back to Ryzen, MB vendors said they got there samples really late, yet it was able to run fine at stock speeds. (Yes it did have bugs but I don't think they affected it at stock speeds, but correct me if i am wrong).
I think there is more to this issue than there appears.



10th August is the latest rumors. https://videocardz.com/70248/kitguru-amd-ryzen-threadripper-to-launch-around-10th-of-august


Nice, Good Luck.

I'm starting to doubt asus quality lately, they always seemed to be the 'best' motherboards, but the early crosshairs had the worst issues (bios bricking) and gave the worst performance for ryzen early on. afaik the 'better' early ryzen reviews were on gigabyte boards.

also seems like other manufacturers are catching up, guru3d said their msi boards have been far better bios wise than the asus ones, and from a thread at overclock.net both gigabyte and msi are using far better power delivery on their boards.

the asus strix/prime are using 8 phase ir3355 (around that number) and the msi /gigabyte boards are using 11/12 phase of the same ir3355.

 

[JediFragger]

Around July 27th. Same date as Vega

Siggraph starts on the 30th.

 

[Rroff]

I'm starting to doubt asus quality lately

Routers aside I've never had great results with Asus - over the years (about 25 boards going back just over 16 years) their motherboards have far more often degraded over time than any other brand I've used i.e. DIMM slots stop working, LAN ports malfunction, chipset ICs come loose of their soldering, etc. also not had a great track record with their monitors having been through 2 of the ROG Swift that have died and know people IRL who've been through several before giving up and buying another brand.

 

[humbug]

I'm starting to doubt asus quality lately, they always seemed to be the 'best' motherboards, but the early crosshairs had the worst issues (bios bricking) and gave the worst performance for ryzen early on. afaik the 'better' early ryzen reviews were on gigabyte boards.

also seems like other manufacturers are catching up, guru3d said their msi boards have been far better bios wise than the asus ones, and from a thread at overclock.net both gigabyte and msi are using far better power delivery on their boards.

the asus strix/prime are using 8 phase ir3355 (around that number) and the msi /gigabyte boards are using 11/12 phase of the same ir3355.

Yeah i think for once i agree with you. Asus these days like every-other big name company now have the midshare where they can knock out crap and almost everyone think it good because its Asus.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

I'll keep that in mind. No Asus motherboards.

 

[gavinh87]

Yeah i think for once i agree with you. Asus these days like every-other big name company now have the midshare where they can knock out crap and almost everyone think it good because its Asus.

The way elmor was talking over at oc.net would have us believe that the design team don't give a crap about actual features now, its all about fancy lights and slogans, the engineers get pulled all over the place fixing their **** ups because not enough attention was spent on the actual functionality.

 

[humbug]

The way elmor was talking over at oc.net would have us believe that the design team don't give a crap about actual features now, its all about fancy lights and slogans, the engineers get pulled all over the place fixing their **** ups because not enough attention was spent on the actual functionality.

Well ok i don't agree with any of that, that's a bit much.

 

[smogsy]

I'm starting to doubt asus quality lately, they always seemed to be the 'best' motherboards, but the early crosshairs had the worst issues (bios bricking) and gave the worst performance for ryzen early on. afaik the 'better' early ryzen reviews were on gigabyte boards.

also seems like other manufacturers are catching up, guru3d said their msi boards have been far better bios wise than the asus ones, and from a thread at overclock.net both gigabyte and msi are using far better power delivery on their boards.

the asus strix/prime are using 8 phase ir3355 (around that number) and the msi /gigabyte boards are using 11/12 phase of the same ir3355.

my asus X99 Workstation Motherboard was bricked by a simple fan curve change...

their early BIOS generally sucks

 

[gavinh87]

Well ok i don't agree with any of that, that's a bit much.

I'll see if I can find the quotes.

 

[Panos]

The way elmor was talking over at oc.net would have us believe that the design team don't give a crap about actual features now, its all about fancy lights and slogans, the engineers get pulled all over the place fixing their **** ups because not enough attention was spent on the actual functionality.

I might agree with you. The CH6 burned my 1700X due to the usual spontaneous overvolting. Something common on their X99 boards also when first release. Especially the expensive RIVE is reknown for this.

In addition they kinda crippled the Ryzen CPUs, with their initial boards barely been able to push the memory to 3200Mhz. And writing boards not BIOS because AGESA 1006 provides support for up to 4000Mhz for the Ryzen CPUs, and Elmor posted some time ago, that is motherboard hardware design and part used that making 3200Mhz difficult to be achieved on the CH6.

And then you see second generation Ryzen boards like the cheap Strixx beating the CH6 and having the same performance with the MSI Titanium.

 

[FredFlint]

My Asus X99 Deluxe has been rock solid and I got it when the X99 first came out. My C6H has been ok, had a few issues and the RGB's are dead but most AM4 bourds have had problems.

 

[gavinh87]

I'll see if I can find the quotes.

The search feature at oc.net is a pile of crap and I'm not going through 200+ pages to find it but he was asking for our help basically to try to convince asus into putting features on the board that we will actually use rather than stupid lights or options for different I/O covers.

I might agree with you. The CH6 burned my 1700X due to the usual spontaneous overvolting. Something common on their X99 boards also when first release. Especially the expensive RIVE is reknown for this.

In addition they kinda crippled the Ryzen CPUs, with their initial boards barely been able to push the memory to 3200Mhz. And writing boards not BIOS because AGESA 1006 provides support for up to 4000Mhz for the Ryzen CPUs, and Elmor posted some time ago, that is motherboard hardware design and part used that making 3200Mhz difficult to be achieved on the CH6.

And then you see second generation Ryzen boards like the cheap Strixx beating the CH6 and having the same performance with the MSI Titanium.

I saw the strix and thought what the hell is going on here. I think reviewers need to start putting boards against each other more often.

 

[LeMson]

I've had the over volting thing with my asus x99 board, was scary as f the first time, think it happened once or twice more and now I manage voltage myself and with bios updates its never happened since :X

 

[Rroff]

my asus X99 Workstation Motherboard was bricked by a simple fan curve change...

their early BIOS generally sucks

Reminds me of the DFI Infinity 975X great board for the most part but (and I only found out via trial and error and a few RMAs) there was an issue with it where lowering a memory setting after setting it above default = bricked and totally unrecoverable board on next reboot LOL

 

[Tom B]

Routers aside I've never had great results with Asus - over the years (about 25 boards going back just over 16 years) their motherboards have far more often degraded over time than any other brand I've used i.e. DIMM slots stop working, LAN ports malfunction, chipset ICs come loose of their soldering, etc. also not had a great track record with their monitors having been through 2 of the ROG Swift that have died and know people IRL who've been through several before giving up and buying another brand.

This is in no way indicative of how they are now, but I'm running a X58 Asus p6t that's been running pretty much daily with a fair over clock since late 2009 in my main PC.

That said, my Asus 4k monitor died after 3 years.

 

[Rroff]

Yeah - my laptop has a Asus mainboard that has so far been going strong nearly 5 years under a fair bit of abuse :s sadly though my experience in general hasn't been as inspirational.

What annoys me more though about it is that you can buy one of their "premium" all bells and whistle "ROG" or whatever branded hardware and if it fails on day one (unless the retailer replaces it from new stock) generally you have a poor RMA experience with a high chance it will be replaced with someone else's poorly repaired (if its repaired at all) RMA replacement which is just unacceptable and contemptible IMO.

 

[gavinh87]

Whilst it looks like they are dropping certain decent features like a clear CMOS button and other nice to have options, my experience has been solid with ASUS.
I have a 27" monitor from about 4 years ago, an asus mobo with an i5 3330, asus mobo with a 4770 and another with a 4690k and now this crosshair.
Not a single hardware related problem.