10 core might be the same package with some cores disabled - though that usually bodes well for overclocking if it is the case - which hasn't really happened :s
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AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X
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10 core might be the same package with some cores disabled - though that usually bodes well for overclocking if it is the case - which hasn't really happened :s
I understand Threadripper is 2 modules but it is still only a single die if you know what I mean. What I'm trying to say is how will the thermals behave? Will it be twice the temperature of a R7 or will it be less due to the large surface area of the ihs?
Ryzen was pretty good on thermals I'm just wondering what to expect with threadripper. We really don't want a repeat of skylake x, so hopefully with Threadripper, it having a larger surface area will help negate the heat generated by 2x R7 modules, that and the fact that it is soldered.
Hopefully that made sense
It's not a single die. Threadripper is two dies, each die is 8 cores, with 2 core-complexes.
Just like that photo of Epyc shows 4 dies, for 32 cores.
Temps should hopefully be good, as the supposed leaks show similar clocks as the R7's; overclocking might be a tad limited though.
Yeah, after my H110i pump died I went noctua and I'm never looking back.
Considering the heat of the 8 and 10 cores; and people not even doing overclocking stability tests with with AVX active; I'm not sure how well their 12-18 cores are going to run. Either clocks are very low, or temps are going to be ungodly.
You can get windows 10 for free, and a cut down no BS version too. But I still dont use it as I know a lot of people who have had driver issues and updates interuptions.
This has made me stick with Windows 7 and not move on to anything new. If steam OS was able to run a few simple things like firefox, Office, skype, VLC, starburn, and games ect, I would use it and dump windows.
This has made me stick with Windows 7 and not move on to anything new. If steam OS was able to run a few simple things like firefox, Office, skype, VLC, starburn, and games ect, I would use it and dump windows.
Silicon lottery are binning the x299's with minus avx offsets. And are coating the VRM's in liquid tape. Not nice.
Sorry just my poor wording. It's one chip in one socket with one cooler is what I'm getting at.
Yeah the non AVX loads annoys me. Lots fo Video work is using some form of AVX, and those loads will mess up and throttle the CPU, or kill the VRMs.
I want Skylake X or Threadripper mainly for video work, and second for gaming. So far Threadripper is looking the way to go. Despite Zen AVX being slower, the extra cores should easily offset that for performance; and I wouldn't have to buy an expensive triple rad just for the CPU.
Actually is 2 chips on a single socket, with a huge gap (relative speaking) between the chips. Making them easier to cool.
Look at this. This is the 32 core EPYC. The Ryzen 9s are 2 of these on each side of the PCB
That design is very easy to cool efficiently, because not everything is build up to a single die but 2, and the surface area is pretty big.
It will be similar to cooling 2 CPUs.
On contrary with the Skylake-X everything is packed tight in a single die which is smaller than two of those dies also, making it difficult to cool efficiently.
(7900X on the photo)
Yes! When?
real world id expect first weekend of august, nda rushed clickbait id assume 25th of july or there abouts. and yeah im just picking them dates out of thin air i know nothing!!!!! much like everyone else on this forum
thought it was a july release ie the 27th via the alienware info that was produced for new products they will start selling with threadripper in them.
No idea, but I just ordered 32GB of G.Skill 4266Mhz sticks; so 2 pairs of 16GB. They work well in Ryzen, and Skylake X and were on sale at a steal. So which ever platform I go with I should be sorted.
Just need my Treadripper info and reviews!
No idea, but I just ordered 32GB of G.Skill 4266Mhz sticks; so 2 pairs of 16GB. They work well in Ryzen, and Skylake X and were on sale at a steal. So which ever platform I go with I should be sorted.
Just need my Treadripper info and reviews!
Hmm, you are gambling there for both platforms.
Two pairs of RAM kits doesn't mean they are guarantee to be quad channel compatible if all put together. There might be, but might be not also. Not guarantees there.
Is advisable to pick quad channel kit. Also we do not know the supported RAM on the X399, and what ram each mobo manufacturer would support.
eg the GA X99 gaming I have supports my 3600CL16 dual kit, but the Asus boards do not. (hence picked gigabyte)
However every Z170 and Z270 board supports that same kit.
There really isn't such a thing as Quad channel specific memory. If I pick the 32GB Quad channel kits, the actual product code still shows F4-4266C19D-16GTZR. Which indicates it's just two 16GB kits anyway for the G.Skill.
My current RAM is 2400Mhz from when x99 launched, so it'll all an upgrade, and Ryzen folks here and on Overclock.net getting good results up to 3466Mhz already with these.
Threadripper uses the same IMCs as the rest of Zen, so we can expect Samsung B-dies to still be king there, and G.Skill hasn't disappointed yet.
Considering the price was the same as a 32GB 3600Mhz these will do grand; even more so with Skylake X board sporting memory OC's of up to 4133Mhz.
So if they don't work in quad channel in my x99 board I'll just return them, and step down to other ones.
There is going to be no war mate. Just Intel routing
Already if you read other forums (eg OCNET), X299 platform is marked as useless pile of expensive guano, by the the majority.