AMD to launch 300W GPU with High-Bandwidth-Memory

[james.miller]

Spoiler

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/68...0-4gb-strix-oc-video-card-review/index16.html

Yeah at default settings the 980 is indeed more power efficient than it's predecessors, and more so than the 290X, once you add an overclock or really stress the GPU @ stock that low TDP goes out the window

I've got a GTX 980 which sits @ 1500 core all day long for gaming, it pulls about as much from the wall as my old Titan Black did at about 1200 core..

that's 3dmark, I'm asking about those games you were talking about

And we're back to the ****ing power consumption topic, this has been done over and over and over and the people who realize this is a stupid topic also realize its only relevant if your PSU is tiny and cant really handle 500-600W (Which my OCed system uses for reference). But i doubt it, you people who have 5960xs and 980s make this argument as if its a problem you have lol.

Electrical bills? Oh please, if you're that poor you shouldnt sit on ocuk and waste time.

It's not about how much the cards consume, i dont really care. I made a thread and had a poll when i bought my 970 because i couldnt decide between that and a 290x - it was that close that i threw the vote to the forums. Boomstick mentioned the massive watts pulled by the 980 during gaming - I just wanted to know what games, because i can't find anything to suggest that. so not, it's not about power consumption - its about misinformation.

I guess i'll pull my power meter out and do my own testing then, nobody's show me anything yet

 

[Gregster]

If you have the money for a graphics card of the calibre that is R9 290s or Maxwell then you shouldnt waste time on OCUK whining about how they will affect electrical bills.

Edit: see the inconsistency? Said person can pay for a 290x or a 980... But cant pay the tiny difference in electrical bills? PLEASE.

Just out of curiosity, do you pay for your electricity bills?

 

[Rangerjr1]

Just out of curiosity, do you pay for your electricity bills?

Yes.

 

[Buckster]

I do and I picked a 290

but to be honest at 90-100 a month in electricity the 290 is the least of my worries power wise

 

[Rangerjr1]

that's 3dmark, I'm asking about those games you were talking about



It's not about how much the cards consume, i dont really care. I made a thread and had a poll when i bought my 970 because i couldnt decide between that and a 290x - it was that close that i threw the vote to the forums. Boomstick mentioned the massive watts pulled by the 980 during gaming - I just wanted to know what games, because i can't find anything to suggest that. so not, it's not about power consumption - its about misinformation.

I guess i'll pull my power meter out and do my own testing then, nobody's show me anything yet

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wi56qgxvsx414yg/20150112_200022.mp4?dl=0

Here's my 290 and 4820k usage running Metro LL maxed out

 

[Boomstick777]

that's 3dmark, I'm asking about those games you were talking about



It's not about how much the cards consume, i dont really care. I made a thread and had a poll when i bought my 970 because i couldnt decide between that and a 290x - it was that close that i threw the vote to the forums. Boomstick mentioned the massive watts pulled by the 980 during gaming - I just wanted to know what games, because i can't find anything to suggest that. so not, it's not about power consumption - its about misinformation.

I guess i'll pull my power meter out and do my own testing then, nobody's show me anything yet

The power consumption difference between gaming (Any game take your pic) is negligible between OC GTX 980 / OC Titan Black. I don't how else to write it. I've tried all the cards personally. This is my own experience not stuff I've read..

Any power efficiency you get at stock is lost once you overclock. I assume most of us here are overclockers, so buying a GPU based on efficiency seems moot when you consider that when overclocked that efficiency goes out the Window.

Had the 980 been on a die shrink the power savings would have been greater, but there's only so much magic you can achieve on the same node. Maxwell saves most of it's power by saving power when the workload isn't optimal for shared resources. Not at full GPU load. Maxwell + die shrink would have given a much larger drop in power use as peak load power use would have also dropped (At same performance level).

Think we should put this to bed now lol.

Whichever card has most performance / OC headroom will get my money.

 

[Ian Evey]

The power consumption difference between gaming (Any game take your pic) is negligible between OC GTX 980 / OC Titan Black. I don't how else to write it. I've tried all the cards personally. This is my own experience not stuff I've read..

Any power efficiency you get at stock is lost once you overclock. I assume most of us here are overclockers, so buying a GPU based on efficiency seems moot when you consider that when overclocked that efficiency goes out the Window.

Had the 980 been on a die shrink the power savings would have been greater, but there's only so much magic you can achieve on the same node.

Think we should put this to bed now lol.

Whichever card has most performance / OC headroom will get my money.

It surely has to be all relative to the actual performance levels of the cards though.

No point having this debate at all if both cards dont run the said game at the same settings, resolution and fps.

A 980 doing 100fps in a game all stock is better than a 290x doing 100fps @ max overclocks, and vice versa. IMO

 

[Mal X]

I don't think you've quite grasped how it works. Most people with a setup that includes a high end card should have space for a 120 Rad.

If the AIO can keep the 295x, a 500w card, cool and quiet enough, then a 300w card should be a breeze.

it's not how efficient it is, it's how cumbersome and pig ugly it looks, even the cooler cover looks cheap and nasty, AMD have to really improve on this next time.

 

[Rangerjr1]

it's not how efficient it is, it's how cumbersome and pig ugly it looks, even the cooler cover looks cheap and nasty, AMD have to really improve on this next time.

Well how it looks is very subjective isnt it?

 

[Doogles]

It can run at 600w if it has lots of performance and actually works without catching fire, I don't mind.

 

[triss]

Well how it looks is very subjective isnt it?

+1
Some loved the look of the 295x2 others didnt, Cant please all the people all the time

 

[andybird123]

Most people dont want watercooling, if AMD's only option is watercooling (which it shouldnt be as there are plenty of air coolers about that can handle 300w) then they will be severely limiting their opportunity

I also cant believe that watercooling is any more economic than a decent air cooler

 

[Mal X]

in most cases only real big difference in power consumption is while playing games

% time of that is prob quite small in most cases - it is for me anyway

I think difference in power bills is smaller than you'd think

the pc isn't doing much gaming either, the Panasonic Plasma uses far more electricity.

 

[Tonester0011]

Per the power consumption, it's not the saving money it's the potential to scale up. I don't care about saving 7 or 8 pence a year, knowing the cards performance is massive based on wattage used gives me a full on chubb.

 

[bru]

300w, HBM, well we shall see.

I think that if AMD do have a chip like this that is ready to go onto a card ( and that is a big if) then they will have to do a couple things to make it work and sell well.

1, make sure it have a decent cooler on it at stock. (reference)

We all know that the aftermarket card with different coolers are much, much better, but by then the damage had been done as all the reviews were with the stock reference cooler and well not to put to fine a point on it, it sucked.

2. Don't put a water cooler on it.

The 295x is all well and good, but if they use the hybrid water cooler idea on the 390x then unfortunately they will be kissing goodbye to a lot of customers. It will be difficult enough to mount a water cooled 390x. You immediately discount all those using a all in one cooler on their CPU and all those wishing to use crossfire. Except the very few who fully watercool. And of course those who watercool wont want the extra expense of the hybrid water cooler as they intend to remove it anyway.

All the heat from the GPU and all the heat from the memory all under one heat spreader, sheesh, that is going to take a good cooler to handle so please AMD don't mess this one up.

 

[Mal X]

Most people dont want watercooling, if AMD's only option is watercooling (which it shouldnt be as there are plenty of air coolers about that can handle 300w) then they will be severely limiting their opportunity

I also cant believe that watercooling is any more economic than a decent air cooler

it's just a nuisance, plus Watercooling is too complicated and expensive, just build your rig right and you'll never need Water............esp the CPU, because that really is dead easy to cool on air........even in a heatwave !!!

 

[Tonester0011]

You know everything don't you mal lol.
Two posts ago moaning the 7990 overheated your cpu, amd make a cooler that takes all heat away from components and you're moaning because it's ugly.

Watercooling if running multi cards, big cpu is needed. More efficient way to move heat and gets it from around your board and other passively cooled components.

 

[Mal X]

you'd be crazy to buy the 390X on launch day anyway, because the best ones wont be out for a further 2 months ............ the one to go for will deffo be the MSI Lightning or the Sapphire.

MSI Lightning 390X in Crossfire............HELL YEA' .............600W and a thousand quid....lovely

 

[Rangerjr1]

you'd be crazy to buy the 390X on launch day anyway, because the best ones wont be out for a further 2 months ............ the one to go for will deffo be the MSI Lightning or the Sapphire.

MSI Lightning 390X in Crossfire............HELL YEA' .............600W and a thousand quid

Best ones are out on day 1, the reference cards. Voltage control, easy bios flashing, block compatibility, the PCB is awesome. This has been true since the 79xx, i dont know how it was on 6000 though.

 

[Tonester0011]

Ltg on 6970 was a monster from what I remember though, I can barely remember what I did last week.

Mal really doesn't know what he's talking about ranger, my love. It's also worth noting, if only ambient cooling ref will hold up against ltg etc, once they're cold, nope.