AMD to launch 300W GPU with High-Bandwidth-Memory

[Mal X]

When you say "temps" it sounds like you are saying the temperate of the card rather than the heat that goes into the case and room. Now that we have established that the 290 has a cool operating temp with the right cooler but you don't like the heat output what is 3x290x heat output compared to the 3x titans?

he's saying all 3 cards give off far too much heat, but all of these are nothing compared to my old 7990, because that monster used to overheat the CPU and the MOBO and there's nothing you can do to kill its temps, only undervolt it.....

AMD only need a decent sized air cooler and its temps will be ok, the trouble with a hot card is that the fans will always be noisy too, so this is a double kick in the teeth.

what about the 390X at 300W??.............no idea till we see it, but its temp and noise will be CRITICAL, much more so than price/performance.

 

[new boy]

2KW is the max a socket can provide.

more like 3

 

[Kaapstad]

So Kaap must be wired directly to a substation

I am very careful to only run one PC at a time.

Today it is the 980s

For the next 4 days while I am off work it will mostly be the 290Xs.

 

[Gregster]

2KW is the max a socket can provide.

Ahhh k, I didn't know that

 

[win8.1]

I don't have a clue but it is very hot. The Titan has a TDP of 250W, whilst the 290X has a 300W TDP, so effectively, that is an extra 150W of heat in the case and then in the room. With a 900W heater running in the summer, you can imagine the heat coming into the room and you have to remember that most room heaters have a top heat output of 2kw (just to give some perspective).

I suppose it does matter if you are running 3 cards though a 750W and 900W TDP system would both kick out a good amount of heat. As I run only one card 50w difference in TDP won't make much of a difference.

If Titan II has 300W tdp but superb performance would you buy 3 of them or is it just Amd high tdp cards you would not buy?

 

[Kaapstad]

Ahhh k, I didn't know that

It is another reason why I equip my PCs with dual PSUs so if the worst comes to the worst I can plug them in from different sources. Dual PSUs also reduce the power used slightly as this allows them to run at their optimum efficiency rather than near max output on a single PSU, it is also quieter as the PSUs don't spin up a lot of the time.

 

[setter]

The Zalman VF 3000 was an epic cooler and OCUK used to sell them for around £25.

I remember ordering a stock GTX 470 for £170 which at the time was stupid cheap and then fitted a Zalman and it would top out at 63c in a Furmark benchmark (so not ran for hours and hours) and could clock to over 800mhz and still remain under 73c.

The biggest mistake on the Fermi big guns was the coolers. They were inefficient and crap. The fan on the 470 was only around 1-1.5 inches in diameter so sounded like a helicopter taking off.

Ran two of the reference 470's in sli on an X58 system, sure they were hot, loud and used a heck of a lot of power. But when they could easily oc to 850mhz core you tend to forgive a few wee niggles. Noise cancelling headphones were a requirement for gaming though.

 

[Tonester0011]

The 290 is not hot with the right cooler it's heat output is higher therefore room temps are hotter. Was the WF X3 for the 480 a standard windforce cooler for it?

It's hot regardless, read what I wrote. Wasn't referring to operating temps rather the actual heat output.

Yes, WF X3 was one you could buy off the shelves, still hot as in heat dumped, cooler and quieter running in terms of operating.

 

[win8.1]

he's saying all 3 cards give off far too much heat, but all of these are nothing compared to my old 7990, because that monster used to overheat the CPU and the MOBO and there's nothing you can do to kill its temps, only undervolt it.....

AMD only need a decent sized air cooler and its temps will be ok, the trouble with a hot card is that the fans will always be noisy too, so this is a double kick in the teeth.

what about the 390X at 300W??.............no idea till we see it, but its temp and noise will be CRITICAL, much more so than price/performance.

I think Amd need to forget about ref coolers if the 390/390x are high tdp but very good performance and go with a cooler like the Sapphire cards have. It would be great to have 970/980 levels of tdp without cutting down on bus size/performance but if they can't just stick a good aftermarket cooler on as standard and most people using only one card won't mind as long as the performance and price are very good over last gen.

 

[Tonester0011]

Ahhh k, I didn't know that

13 amp 240v is just over 3kw. Won't get many computers pulling that other than miners.

 

[whyscotty]

2KW is the max a socket can provide.

13Amp X 240v = 3120W

 

[setter]

Yes, WF X3 was one you could buy off the shelves, still hot as in heat dumped, cooler and quieter running in terms of operating.

Was that the SOC models with the wf x3 cooler? I remember ocuk selling the 470 version of this very cheaply when the 400 series went eol.

 

[Tonester0011]

Was that the SOC models with the wf x3 cooler? I remember ocuk selling the 470 version of this very cheaply when the 400 series went eol.

I think it might have been. Hmm, mine didn't oc well. 880 on the core iirc. Nearly 1ghz on my other 480

 

[Gregster]

I suppose it does matter if you are running 3 cards though a 750W and 900W TDP system would both kick out a good amount of heat. As I run only one card 50w difference in TDP won't make much of a difference.

If Titan II has 300W tdp but superb performance would you buy 3 of them or is it just Amd high tdp cards you would not buy?

If nVidia released a 300W beast I would but not AMD

 

[win8.1]

It's hot regardless, read what I wrote. Wasn't referring to operating temps rather the actual heat output.

Yes, WF X3 was one you could buy off the shelves, still hot as in heat dumped, cooler and quieter running in terms of operating.

Hot full stop or hot regardless means the card cannot be cooled to a low operating temp which is not the case with the 290 as it can with a good aftermarket cooler. Heat output into room yes it will be hotter than a lower tdp card but if running one hardly a great difference unless you live in the Bahama's.

Thanks for that information on the 480 as I was not sure whether aftermarket cooler as standard could be bought for it as I never got one.

 

[jkb]

There are some very interesting developments happening in the near future which means when the 390X turns up it will be a great card.

What it won't be fortunately is anything like some of the speculation in this thread.

My guess is it will have -

The same TDP as the 290X
A slightly better cooler
Run below 85c
Be about 40% faster than a 290X

There are many ways AMD could go to achieve this and I have no idea which way they will go. The only thing I do think is the 390X will be special.

40% faster than 290X is very close to my usual 50% increase upgrade threshold. I might even talk myself into one if it is 40%

 

[Gregster]

13Amp X 240v = 3120W

Well done Sparky. I knew you would know

 

[win8.1]

If nVidia released a 300W beast I would but not AMD

Well I knew that by the posts you make but just wanted to make sure.

 

[Boomstick777]

If nVidia released a 300W beast I would but not AMD

Haha

I can't wait for AMD to release this thing, because we're moving closer to a more fully enabled Maxwell card, and then pick between the two monster cards.

I want Maxwell with more cores, and at least 8GB's of vram. If not I'll prob go 390X. AMD do need to fix IDLE temps / power use on multi screens though, atm it's dire. Hopefully stacked mem can address this??

Don't care about TDP on either card. Because when you overclock TDP goes out the window anyway.

My 980 is @ 1500mhz and sucks a fair bit of juice.

 

[Tonester0011]

If Nvidia keep their current PPW and drop a card that chugs 300w I will gladly empty my account to get it.