AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

Mei · 13 Dec 2016 at 00:19

my guess is it will be between a 1070 & 1080
i hope it shakes things up tho, gfx cards feel a little boring to me right now

just remember the 1080 won the "damn good value" award by a certain reviewer, lets see what these get

RSR · 13 Dec 2016 at 00:25

If these are a better card then my current 1080, I'm sold! I'll have one or two plus a EK water block please.

Griffildur · 13 Dec 2016 at 00:38

Seanspeed said:
I think the point is that modern AMD cards run extraordinarily better than Nvidia cards using Doom+Vulkan. It's not close to representative of the 'norm'.

That said, Raven's comments about a 'lemon' incoming are hilariously idiotic and shortsighted. Dude is insecure as hell and totally shook worrying about this new AMD lineup, you can tell.

why would anyone be shook and worrying about the line up of any company? just wondering

Seanspeed · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:10

Griffildur said:
why would anyone be shook and worrying about the line up of any company? just wondering

Because nobody becomes a fanboy without a healthy does of insecurity.

five8five · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:13

Seanspeed said:
That said, Raven's comments about a 'lemon' incoming are hilariously idiotic and shortsighted. Dude is insecure as hell and totally shook worrying about this new AMD lineup, you can tell.

To be fair to Raven the last two AMD launches have been far from stellar and he may be saying it tongue in cheek.

Maybe some people are taking things far too seriously?

five8five · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:15

Seanspeed said:
Because nobody becomes a fanboy without a healthy does of insecurity.

Did you you not see the moderator comment regarding "fanboys" earlier in the thread?

five8five · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:18

RSR said:
If these are a better card then my current 1080, I'm sold! I'll have one or two plus a EK water block please.

How much better does it need to be before you pull the trigger?

As mentioned earlier if it's better than a 1080, what fills the (massive) gap to the 480?

humbug · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:20

five8five said:
How much better does it need to be before you pull the trigger?

As mentioned earlier if it's better than a 1080, what fills the (massive) gap to the 480?

Usually there are more than one card from an SKU.

five8five · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:22

humbug said:
Usually there are more than one card from an SKU.

Maybe three cards then to cover the range?

humbug · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:36

five8five said:
Maybe three cards then to cover the range?

Vega 10 and Vega 11, two SKU's resulting in 4 GPU's.

queamin · 13 Dec 2016 at 01:57

could be 3 per sku but more likely 2.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 13 Dec 2016 at 03:15

AMD Vega cube:

http://videocardz.com/64731/what-is-amd-vega-cube

Kaapstad · 13 Dec 2016 at 06:40

humbug said:
Usually there are more than one card from an SKU.

SKU = Stock keeping unit

So no.

mahius · 13 Dec 2016 at 07:14

I just saw the Vega Doom benchmark, this time AMD have taped up the back cos they don't want anyone seeing the IO. I'm disappointed they chose Doom, since it shows what this card does at it's best (AMD cards do great on that title) and nothing close to average. My 970 has similar performance on Doom at 1440p (obviously with certain settings like shadows not on Nightmare and such off), so I personally wasn't very impressed.

Considering the way AMD showed off Polaris before (they don't use max settings, no doubt they turned things down to get it above 60), the performance appears to be better on the benchmark than the final product. I don't hear RX480 being touted as a 1440p card and neither have I heard many folks using it for 1440p on Hitman. The final benchmarks show it falling a tad short of 60fps at 1440p on that game.

So considering that, I reckon the Vega they showed off is the best thing they have and it looks to be something in between a 1070 and 1080, keeping in mind the Doom performance and the way AMD like to show things off. I'll add my estimate price of being in between a 1070 and 1080 (think original Fury release) and there we go... a potentially disappointing entry (because it wouldn't shake things up and slots in around Nvidia). Of course this all comes down to that card being the best of what Vega has to offer and a prediction that AMD won't be aggressive with pricing a year later.

And what's the chance that Nvidia will release a 1080ti shortly before... it feels like Fury all over again.

Griffildur · 13 Dec 2016 at 08:32

Seanspeed said:
Because nobody becomes a fanboy without a healthy does of insecurity.

usually your posts make sense and are actually good to read, in this case however, you stepped over the line, multiple times.

Geck0 · 13 Dec 2016 at 08:46

mahius said:
I just saw the Vega Doom benchmark, this time AMD have taped up the back cos they don't want anyone seeing the IO. I'm disappointed they chose Doom, since it shows what this card does at it's best (AMD cards do great on that title) and nothing close to average. My 970 has similar performance on Doom at 1440p (obviously with certain settings like shadows not on Nightmare and such off), so I personally wasn't very impressed.

Considering the way AMD showed off Polaris before (they don't use max settings, no doubt they turned things down to get it above 60), the performance appears to be better on the benchmark than the final product. I don't hear RX480 being touted as a 1440p card and neither have I heard many folks using it for 1440p on Hitman. The final benchmarks show it falling a tad short of 60fps at 1440p on that game.

So considering that, I reckon the Vega they showed off is the best thing they have and it looks to be something in between a 1070 and 1080, keeping in mind the Doom performance and the way AMD like to show things off. I'll add my estimate price of being in between a 1070 and 1080 (think original Fury release) and there we go... a potentially disappointing entry (because it wouldn't shake things up and slots in around Nvidia). Of course this all comes down to that card being the best of what Vega has to offer and a prediction that AMD won't be aggressive with pricing a year later.

And what's the chance that Nvidia will release a 1080ti shortly before... it feels like Fury all over again.

Did you read the bit where it was running in a virtually airflow nil flow case and running on Fiji drivers with an additional debugging layer so no specific or optimised drivers?

So even ball gagged and on crutches it traded blows with the overclocked 1080.

Gregster · 13 Dec 2016 at 08:46

Come on chaps, all good fun and it is something ALL of us enjoy using and discussing. No need to take it to the gutter. I for one am pleased with the performance of the M25 and hopefully the desktop card will clock much higher and give some great returns. 8GB is plenty as well for games.

Lokken86 · 13 Dec 2016 at 08:57

Doom Vega is heavily optimised for AMD don't forget. My unlocked Fury can run it at 50fps+ 4k and just behind a stock 1080 but it's miles behind a 1080 in almost everything else.

old gamer · 13 Dec 2016 at 09:00

i would be happy with performance inbetween a 1070/1080 if priced right, fast enough for my needs with 8 gb ram and freesync and im sorted

tyler_jrb · 13 Dec 2016 at 09:00

Geck0 said:
Did you read the bit where it was running in a virtually airflow nil flow case and running on Fiji drivers with an additional debugging layer so no specific or optimised drivers?

So even ball gagged and on crutches it traded blows with the overclocked 1080.

I doubt they are running it throttled. The case in question is more than good enough. Plus they only taped off the IO ports. Not the exhaust.

Drivers could make a difference. Possible they have a driver for it.

It depends on several variables one of those being what they are showing is true. I.e ultra MEANS ultra with every setting maxed. Rather than them turning a few down to hit over 60fps. As it only states ultra IQ.

I'm hoping to see it at 1070 pricing, or less. My guess is AMD will put it in between the two cards(1070/1080). If that's where it sits performance wise.