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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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benjii said:
If that ends up coming to fruition, then it's a no-brainer which Vega card to get. There aren't any AMD partners that offer the same level of customer service.
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nVidia won't want to lose 'em/share 'em. I wonder if they'll give EVGA an ultimatum... 'partner with AMD and no more nVidia chips for you'... I'm guessing they could get away with doing that.
 
FoxEye said:
nVidia won't want to lose 'em/share 'em. I wonder if they'll give EVGA an ultimatum... 'partner with AMD and no more nVidia chips for you'... I'm guessing they could get away with doing that.
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EVGA are as important to Nvidia as Nvidia are to EVGA.
 
eVGA have obviously been courted by RTG and themselves are looking to improve their overall market cap and like what they've seen (as is evidenced by their recent expansions). Is that worth risking the wrath of nVidia? Only time will tell...
 
vapor matt said:
The thing is its going to be a year late to a 1080 by the time hardware launches from vendors. if it slots in between the 1080 and titan then great, but when? a year after the 1080 which came in may 2016 you wont see vega until june 2017

the 1080ti sits in the locker at NV ready for vega, and the next titan XP will follow that with fully unlocked core to make sure it retains the GFX crown. the following year volta will appear.

I am not a green fan boy or a red fan boy, I would like to see good competition between NV and AMD for reasons to drive prices down, when hardware becomes very close its down to price or personal prefrences.

This hole build up over the last few months has been towards vega launching. wait till jan the hype was, well here we are, and now its wait till june.

AMD need hardware now, not in 6 months time.
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AMD fans need Vega 10 hardware now? LOL but Vega 10 was just taped out in November 2016:

the first Vega has taped out, and Radeon Technology Group’s frontman and Chief Architect, Raja Koduri, has one. The chip was just a few weeks old as of December
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11002/the-amd-vega-gpu-architecture-teaser/4

I don't know why some people so crazy expected Vega 10 prototype with revision A0 contained lots of bugs and has really very poor yield to hit retail in Jan 2017. :eek: :confused:

NOPE no one really want retail A0 stepping so AMD had Polaris 10 and 11 taped out around November 2015 when Raja Koduri first mentioned Polaris in twitter and it took both Polaris 10 and 11 about 10 months to hit retail after made 10 stepping revisions to fixed bugs and improved yield. Looked at Ryzen CPU too, Ryzen was taped out sometime in Jan 2016 at A0 stepping and it took AMD 12 months with probably around 20 revisions to reached final stepping F4 and it should be in volume production by now to get ready for March 2017 launch that will add up total of 15 months from taped out to retail.

http://videocardz.com/58021/amds-polaris-to-succeed-graphics-core-next-architecture

AMD had showed off a preview of Vega architecture at CES 2017 so it seemed to me many of you all has short term memory loss completely forgetten or didn't recalled what AMD did at CES 2016? Well AMD was showed off a preview of Polaris architecture at CES 2016!

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-january-2016-amd-polaris-architecture,1.html

Vega will expect to launch in June 2017, Polaris was launched in June 2016 and Fury X was launched in June 2015.

Don't expect lots of Vega 10 cards shipped at launch, HBM2 is very large chip than HBM1 and it still very difficult to mass produced with interposer, 1000 Fury X cards was shipped worldwide at launch and people cant get one weeks after launch then they went to bought 980 Ti instead. The same thing will happen to Vega 10 at launch too and people will buy 1080 Ti after learned RTG shipped so few Vega 10 cards worldwide worldwide.
 
FoxEye said:
nVidia won't want to lose 'em/share 'em. I wonder if they'll give EVGA an ultimatum... 'partner with AMD and no more nVidia chips for you'... I'm guessing they could get away with doing that.
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Wont happen IMO, many of the other board partners do Nvidia and AMDm no reason why EVGA wouldn't be allowed if they wished.
 
Pmc25 does bring up a good point about the exchange rate, I also expect it to tank another 10% minimum in March. But what does that make a better deal to buy? A high-end Nvidia card 1070/1080 or some sort of CF setup now? I mean, you can get a Fury CF for $600, 480 CF for 400-500.. maybe there will be further cuts as well. I guess it depends on where you think Vega will go, I see it at least for $500, likely more considering HBM2 costs.
 
Poneros said:
Pmc25 does bring up a good point about the exchange rate, I also expect it to tank another 10% minimum in March. But what does that make a better deal to buy? A high-end Nvidia card 1070/1080 or some sort of CF setup now? I mean, you can get a Fury CF for $600, 480 CF for 400-500.. maybe there will be further cuts as well. I guess it depends on where you think Vega will go, I see it at least for $500, likely more considering HBM2 costs.
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Vega won't be cheap but, it'll be a much better option than going crossfire with a pair of Furies or 480's, From what I've seen and read the majority of crossfire users regret going with 2 cards due to the inconsistent support and how buggy it often is.
benjii said:
Wccftech really is the worst site for rumours, their track record is awful.
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I'd say they are the worst of the bunch.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
No way!!!!!!!

Fake news accorded to Jacob.

http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Partner...on-RX-500-Series-Graphics-Cards-m2602235.aspx
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TBH, if those sorts of things were in the offing, you wouldn't tell a tech who was customer facing and might leak the news to customers. It would happen in the boardroom on the quiet. Nvidia has a reputation for burning bridges with their board partners, so it certainly wouldn't surprise me if Nvidia exclusive partners see Vega as a business opportunity instead of having all their eggs in the Nvidia basket.
 
Steampunk said:
TBH, if those sorts of things were in the offing, you wouldn't tell a tech who was customer facing and might leak the news to customers. It would happen in the boardroom on the quiet. Nvidia has a reputation for burning bridges with their board partners, so it certainly wouldn't surprise me if Nvidia exclusive partners see Vega as a business opportunity instead of having all their eggs in the Nvidia basket.
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True as nVidia have been a lot more restrictive on Pascal. I mean all this founders edition lark. Then there is no point in making a good custom board because hell there is no difference from the founders to the best custom PCB other than perhaps an extra 100Mhz. Only difference is the look and how cool the card runs thus how quiet it runs. So you might as well invest in a cheaper card. This will annoy a lot of board partners. Cheapest 1070 or 1080 and perhaps invest in putting it under water. Or just get Zotac with the amazing 5 year warranty and their coolers are really good.


Anyways it looks like Vega 10 will be the lower end (which featured in the Doom and Ashes games) of the Vega lineup this year and Vega 11 is the higher end. Vega 11 will dispute first with 11 later and Vega 20 is next year with the whopping 6k+ stream processors. Looking good for vega.
 
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