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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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vapor matt said:
Top of the line vega cards will be £550 to 600 plus from vendors who offer good cooling options and some overclocking.
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Jono8 said:
It better be a damned sight faster than a 1080 then at that price!
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Indeed it better! If it's a £600 card that doesn't beat the 1080 across the board, then watch as AMD fade in to obscurity in the GPU sector. They're totally finished if this is end scenario. I really hope this doesn't happen, and they can thrash the 1080 resoundingly. If they can't even manage that a year after its release, it shows just how incapable they are of competing at the top tier. If that is what happens, i.e performance between the 1070 and 1080, then it needs to be at 1070 prices. At least then it will sell well and make them money. A £600+ VEGA needs to be better than the 1080, simple as that.
 
humbug said:
Then why is every reviewer on all cards adding at least 200Mhz when running "overclocked results", are you telling me most AIB cards actually run at about <2.4Ghz?

Why do none of the people i know have 1080's boosting to over 2Ghz out of the box?

You're exaggerating, if most boosted to over 2Ghz no of them would need overclocking, they are not capable of running at much more than 2.1Ghz 24/7 if at all, they wouldn't have any overclocking headroom.

According to reviews and users most of them boost to about 1850Mhz, much more than that overclocking long term depends on temperatures, most do 2.1Ghz overclocked short term, IE for benching
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I have not got my 1080 handy at the moment so I used a crappy old Pascal Titan which has a base clock of 1417mhz.

This is my Pascal Titan running the Valley bench with stock clocks.

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I think if my Pascal Titan can boost to nearly 1900mhz (1898mhz to be exact) and maintain it at stock, a higher clocked 1080 which comes with a 1607mhz base clock can do a lot better.

Yes cooling is important but there are a lot of 1080s out there with very good AIB partner coolers.
 
nashathedog said:
I think some are trying to justify there purchases and others don't like the idea of there super expensive super fast card getting beaten. They probably consider the 1080 to be the fastest gaming gpu as the Titan is a Titan with Titanic pricing.
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That's just silly.

Why would anyone care what some random person has and how much they paid for that? You buy something, you use it, you enjoy it, that's the actual cycle.

As for beating beaten ... uhm, doh, welcome to the tech world, anything you have today, something better will appear tomorrow, or next month, or next year.
 
nashathedog said:
I think some are trying to justify there purchases and others don't like the idea of there super expensive super fast card getting beaten. They probably consider the 1080 to be the fastest gaming gpu as the Titan is a Titan with Titanic pricing.
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A large majority of people will have had and been enjoying their 1070's and 1080's for a year or more by the time Vega is predicted to be released.

As i said earlier, no one needs to justify anything. A year is a massive amount of time in the PC hardware world.

You could just as easily say that the other side of the fence is trying to justify why they waited a year...possibly for no reason.
 
Armadillo said:
I don't expect >1080. but for much cheaper.

I just want a decent upgrade option from my 290 for a reasonable price, don't care who it is from. Hope that's not too much to expect from AMD, but fully expecting it will be and a decent upgrade from a 290 will remain at £350+ :(
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If you don't care which vendor why not jump on a 1070? I would have if I hadn't decided to buy a freesync panel and if Vega fails to inspire I probably still.
 
Griffildur said:
That's just silly.

Why would anyone care what some random person has and how much they paid for that? You buy something, you use it, you enjoy it, that's the actual cycle.

As for beating beaten ... uhm, doh, welcome to the tech world, anything you have today, something better will appear tomorrow, or next month, or next year.
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If you have a better reason feel free to share, Hasn't Mr bang for Buck recently bought a pair of 1080's after having had a 290x for ages? Watching his video silly or not it's the impression I got.
Jono8 said:
A large majority of people will have had and been enjoying their 1070's and 1080's for a year or more by the time Vega is predicted to be released.

As i said earlier, no one needs to justify anything. A year is a massive amount of time in the PC hardware world.

You could just as easily say that the other side of the fence is trying to justify why they waited a year...possibly for no reason.
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I wasn't referring to a large majority I was talking about one specific u-tuber .

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I just had a look and he's had his 1080 sli set for 6 months. So he's gone from being a bang for buck gamer with a 290x to getting a pair of 1080's and yes I think he seems to be trying a bit too hard.
 
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nashathedog said:
Of course it is and I considered the original Titan to be a gaming gpu too but plenty of people claimed otherwise and plenty continue to. I think you missed the point I was making.
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yeah, sounds like it :D

I still don't get it though, you're not gaining anything by having a better GPU than someone else and bragging rights only mean something if you're a teenager ...

If that's the reason someone is buying stuff, then they need a reality check and I am not even joking, for a change ...
 
nashathedog said:
If you don't care which vendor why not jump on a 1070? I would have if I hadn't decided to buy a freesync panel and if Vega fails to inspire I probably still.
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Too expensive. Unless I missed out at some point, it's £400 for a decent 1070 with a decent cooler + warranty. Even when they launched before the £ dropped, no decent ones would get you much change from £400. It's suppose to be the succesor to the 970, yet went up a whole pricing tier.

The 290 is still fine for now (have to nudge a few settings here and there) but overall fine.

Judging from the 480 pricing, I'm guessing AMD will do the same and put the 490 (assuming it's called that) up a price tier as well. At this point though, I may as well just wait, let it play out and then decide where to go.
 
Lokken86 said:
Do you ever stop patronising people?
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Read my posts in this thread and 6ou might well see my point of view. Claiming what you said is like being in a playground and I have no interest in that kind of chat. In case you cant see what is what with me, I will tell you. "I want to see Vega stomp over the 1080" I want to see AMD doing well and going toe to toe with Nvidia. It works out better in the long run for all of us enthusiasts, regardless of brand bias. Now go and look up what patronising means, read your reply to my post and then apply that statement to yourself.
 
Gregster said:
Read my posts in this thread and 6ou might well see my point of view. Claiming what you said is like being in a playground and I have no interest in that kind of chat. In case you cant see what is what with me, I will tell you. "I want to see Vega stomp over the 1080" I want to see AMD doing well and going toe to toe with Nvidia. It works out better in the long run for all of us enthusiasts, regardless of brand bias. Now go and look up what patronising means, read your reply to my post and then apply that statement to yourself.
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wow, was that a virtual slap or what ? :)
 
People were expecting a strong come-back with a chip that decisively beats Pascal, and were disappointed when this high-profile YouTuber derailed the hype train.

Now, I don't know whether he's right or not. Possibly he is. But I think Vega will be better than he expects, but not as good as people wish it'd be.

AMD's priorities however seem to be quite different to what AdoredTV hoped and what most gamers wanted. Like Gregster said, it'd be a blessing if AMD pushed the envelope with Vega and got Nvidia running to roll out Volta in a panic.

However, there's only so much they can do with their meagre resources and really... it's a good thing if they're focusing where their strengths are and where the money is. The biggest potential success arenas for RTG are the upcoming APUs and professional sector.

I don't think Vega will be bad. I think it'll be very good, just not as a halo-product gaming card (and frankly I don't care as I never buy that sort of product, so I just want it to be priced right so I can buy one).
 
How the hell did that 'high profile freakin 'youtuber' ' derail anything ? Are u freakin crazy ? He doesn't know anything not even length of the retail card let alone final performance. Wth r u smokin ppl ? only thing u know is few benchs with Es on Fury drivers and that is it
 
Yeah, I'm not that bothered if it beats the mythical Ti as long as it's priced right. Going on recent history and the large architectural changes it seems likely that it's performance will improve as drivers mature as well, which is important to me as I might not replace it for a few years (if I get one).
 
Baboonanza said:
Yeah, I'm not that bothered if it beats the mythical Ti as long as it's priced right. Going on recent history and the large architectural changes it seems likely that it's performance will improve as drivers mature as well, which is important to me as I might not replace it for a few years (if I get one).
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you know you're not buying wine, right? :) Sorry couldn't help it :D
 
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