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I must admit, last year was better than this year for SLi. Hoping things improve a lot with DX12. New DX12 Tomb Raider patch certainly showed us what is possible with it!!
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I must admit, last year was better than this year for SLi. Hoping things improve a lot with DX12. New DX12 Tomb Raider patch certainly showed us what is possible with it!!
SLI started declining since Watch Dogs was released.
Even people with Freesync setups and an existing AMD card, predominantly playing games where the 480 have taken a long hard look at the 1060 going by posts here and elsewhere. While it might not be so true for many of the more regular posters here in the more mainstream consumer market that association with a bigger product has a lot of sub-conscious sway - I see my boss leveraging it to sell stuff on an almost daily basis.
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It hasn't no, as i don't play the newest games, so don't need anything better yet, but once i do need better, a Nvidia card will be straight in there, as they are the only choice for me now.
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It hasn't no, as i don't play the newest games, so don't need anything better yet, but once i do need better, a Nvidia card will be straight in there, as they are the only choice for me now.
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Even if AMD released Vega and it smashed Nvidia to bits and was cheaper you would still opt for the Nvidia? interesting...
Seems a marred Xfire performance has killed you trust in AMD, along with their inability to release something non flawed in one way or another.
Dont get me wrong, im a massive AMD fan, but every and i mean every AMD release in the past 5 or more years has been flawed in one way or another.
290 - Extremely bad reference designed cooler
Fiji - massively overpriced, under performing at release "overclockers dream"
Polaris - Overpriced, bad reference cooler again and pcie power issues.
For me that means Vega is going to probably be Overpriced with a nasty reference cooler, but with that said aftermarket cards are generally better at fixing these reference short comings.
I had a Ref 290, moved to a Tri-X as soon as it was available, much much better card. If Vega turns out to be the same with a terrible ref cooler i will just move to the custom ones when they arrive.
However Nvidia arent angels with their reference designs, everyone knows the FE Pascal cards throttle, and even the Titan series many people recommend putting them under water to get the most from them, which again means a thermal issue solved by adding water cooling.
Anyhow im well off topic, i still have trust in AMD to design the architecture that suits me and Sapphire / Powercolor etc to actually make it work properly.
Even SLI is becoming non relevant not just CF. If Vega is efficient+performance then i will be getting with freesync monitor.
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Vega isn't going to smash Nvidia to bits.
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But it could be better, could be cheaper and it will have Freesync support. "Wont smash Nvidia to bits" is something of a raising of false expectations. Much like a few posters that were predicting Polaris would solve world hunger for £2.99. But when it came it was still very good. I think it's reasonable to have some good expectations for Vega. Polaris is excellent, Vega builds on that and targets the high end.
In reality of course not but anything can happen. They have done it with HD 7xxx.
I wouldn't get too excited - thing aren't looking very rosy with Samsung's performance variant of the process and I suspect similar at GF (not bad just doesn't seem to have the performance uplift seen elsewhere). My guess is it was too optimised early on for ultra low power scenarios at the expense of larger ASICs.
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They can't even get near the 1070, and thats not even Nvidias top card, as they have a faster 1080, and an even faster than that Titan out, so how are they going to get near, whatever card Nvidia have out, in over a years time, they're done, finished.
The real concern for AMD starts when GTX 1080 Ti is out. Nvidia will have 6 cards ,which will be faster then Fury X.
6 cards that have been drip fed out at hugely inflated prices and are still down on the top end of what is possible (talking what is possible while atleast somewhat cost effective in consumer space - obviously you could go super crazy and make something faster again that cost like £200,000 a working unit to produce in any volume).
I think Vega will have a 128gb SSD in conjunction with 8gb of HMB. The on board storage should in theory close the gap performance. As it would make also overall design efficient and driver development simpler. I also expect they would double down on shader counts, so to offload more processes asynchronously. This would lower the requirements for power and clock speeds, when actually utilised properly. Something that is bound to happen in the console space. As newer higher shader count, phone like upgrade cycle consoles hit the market.
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Might have missed actual info amongst the pages of filler, but I think the general theory is two Vega chips planned that could in theory be the 490/x and also the fury/x replacements though I've no idea (not really been keeping track, will check back nearer the time when some firmer info starts to appear)
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Vega is the Furys replacement, the 490, was rumoured to be a dual 480, to compete with the 1070/80.
Interesting. If that is the case then surely the entry-level Vega card will need to outperform the 490/490x in terms of pure FPS (if it is more expensive and looks slower in benchmarks then it surely will struggle to sell)?
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