AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

[Rezident]

Well from Guru3d that did interview with Raja;

Vega 10 is the smaller chip; Vega 11 is the bigger chip - everyone assumed they were the other way......

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-vega-10-vega-20-and-vega-11-gpus-mentioned-by-cto.html

So is the current thinking that small Vega will be released first? I would love big Vega first but I can understand them wanting to get the higher sales asap.

 

[Rroff]

Here is that interview:

https://youtu.be/FwcUMZLvjYw?t=1616 comments on the naming, etc. there is another video where he comments more on it though.

 

[humbug]

https://youtu.be/FwcUMZLvjYw?t=1616 comments on the naming, etc. there is another video where he comments more on it though.

lol, it was Vega 10.

 

[drunkenmaster]

LOL

As if anyone on these forums would ever have the strength in character and swallow their pride and admit to making a fool of themselves in the middle of fanboy war. We've all been there at some point. At most what you will get is the other person will realise their wrong and rather then continue the debate just go away and leave the thread until the dust settles.

Here's a hint, I already admitted the typo and unfortunately for you Kaapstaad accepted this because he went from you can't add, to hilariously "the first thing they teach you in IT is to proof read". Now ignoring how patently ridiculous and false that is, he changed from you can't add to accepting the explanation of a typo, because if I can't add proof reading wouldn't detect it was wrong... because you know, I couldn't add. Proof reading would detect the typo.

However after that, when pressed on all the things he was wrong about.... he went straight back to attacking my character, as you have done. Also I was 3 out due to a typo, Kaapstad was what 1792(disclaimer, I did this from memory, it might be right, it might not be) out... but I can't add or proof read, seriously.

But being that you had a pop at me for lacking the strength of character to admit I was wrong.... surely you will admit you were wrong and maybe chastise Kaapstad for refusing to answer questions and continuing to attack addition and typos rather than discussing the points raised like you know, NVlink not being on anything but the GP100, which he's failed to address a single time.


AS for how people can't admit they are wrong and your and Gregster's analysis of the situation. YOu left out that when wrong, repeatedly and you can't answer the question, send out the bat signal and low and behold a few people turn up to also pile on about your character but lend nothing to the discussion on the content.

 

[Gregster]

What analysis of what situation? I responded to Freddie's response on how people can't admit when they are wrong and I see it time and again and been part of it (hence why I hold my hands up when I am wrong). You need to move on DM and not everything is about you!

 

[queamin]

I agree, DM just move on, both of you have had your say.

 

[fs123]

Well from Guru3d that did interview with Raja;

Vega 10 is the smaller chip; Vega 11 is the bigger chip - everyone assumed they were the other way......

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-vega-10-vega-20-and-vega-11-gpus-mentioned-by-cto.html

If that is true then the Vega they have been showing is the small Vega 10 as confirmed in the PC world interview. That makes it much more interesting since it seems to be competing with the 1080 already.

They may well be holding Vega 11 back until Volta or when the 1080ti is released.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

If that is true then the Vega they have been showing is the small Vega 10 as confirmed in the PC world interview. That makes it much more interesting since it seems to be competing with the 1080 already.

They may well be holding Vega 11 back until Volta or when the 1080ti is released.

I hope not - if Ryzen does pan out,its a good way for AMD to advertise a high end AMD system with an AMD CPU and graphics card.

 

[Panos]

Got a link to that interview? I wouldn't mind reading/watching that. The only one I know was Raja and PCWorld interview at CES but if there is another, sweet.



Very true and in the PCWorld interview, he does state that settings don't need to be on Ultra and games are designed for 1080P with default settings in mind. Take from that as you will.

Here is that interview:

Thanks for sharing this Greg
Enlightening even if most of the items were covered more or less.
Raja is great when talks technical, shame the other two guys who interview him weren't up to scratch to just ask him technical questions in general.

And by technical I mean about the cache speed which initially opened the conversation, but also the ecosystem that will build with Ryzen CPUs and is rumoured, the tech that's behind Vega etc.

 

[chaosophy]

But what Marketing decide is a 4k capable gaming mnoachine is probably a lot weaker than what I would consider a 4k capable machine..

I think the thing to take from that comment is not the 4K capable part but the $2000 to $1000 part. Bit like them saying the 480 is a VR card, it does do VR but you'd probably want something a bit more. So with the 480 it's more the getting a $300/400 card, down to $200.

There's always going to be wiggle room to argue around what 'capable' means.

But 'if' with that comment he means a $1000 Ryzen + Vega build Vs a $2000 Intel + 1080 build at similar performance? Would be good.

Big 'if' mind. Strong chance that's some kind of internal target or mission statement but shaving off a $1000 on a build just on GPU, CPU and mobo, this year? Unlikely imo.

 

[Wucked]

First thing you learn in IT is to proof read to avoid things like poor addition.

Until such time as you can use FP64 for gaming both cards have 3584 active FP32 cores for that purpose.

Proof reading... You really do have an ego the size of a planet, don't you? Making patronising assertions about IT, to a forum full of IT people.

I'll buy in to Vega if it's good. The right level of performance at the right price. There's nothing currently in this thread to sway me one way or the other, though. We're going to have to wait for reviews, like always.

 

[AlamoX]

man there is like 0 info on vega, like it never existed, Ryzen getting all the spotlight

 

[Toss3]

man there is like 0 info on vega, like it never existed, Ryzen getting all the spotlight

Maybe that's because Ryzen is just about to launch while Vega is still at least three months away.

 

[Relentless81]

Yeah I'm not hugely bothered about Vega right now, Ryzen first and then I can get excited about Vega. My CPU has seen more GPU's than I can recall

 

[Rezident]

I think the thing to take from that comment is not the 4K capable part but the $2000 to $1000 part. Bit like them saying the 480 is a VR card, it does do VR but you'd probably want something a bit more. So with the 480 it's more the getting a $300/400 card, down to $200.

There's always going to be wiggle room to argue around what 'capable' means.

But 'if' with that comment he means a $1000 Ryzen + Vega build Vs a $2000 Intel + 1080 build at similar performance? Would be good.

Big 'if' mind. Strong chance that's some kind of internal target or mission statement but shaving off a $1000 on a build just on GPU, CPU and mobo, this year? Unlikely imo.

What do you mean you'd want something with a bit more for VR than a 480? I was was running my VR setup off my Fury but actually the 480 8Gb in my backup system runs the Vive fine - and that's even on an ancient cpu and board etc.

 

[chaosophy]

What do you mean you'd want something with a bit more for VR than a 480? I was was running my VR setup off my Fury but actually the 480 8Gb in my backup system runs the Vive fine - and that's even on an ancient cpu and board etc.

I mean - surprisingly enough - what I wrote.

Yes a 480 will run a Vive fine - I'm running mine off of a Fury - but for consistent frame rates and the option to up things like SS you'd probably want something with a bit more grunt to it.

Bit like pretty much every card can drive a 4k monitor but when gaming on high settings you're going to want more under the hood to max things out.

 

[Rezident]

I mean - surprisingly enough - what I wrote.

Yes a 480 will run a Vive fine - I'm running mine off of a Fury - but for consistent frame rates and the option to up things like SS you'd probably want something with a bit more grunt to it.

Bit like pretty much every card can drive a 4k monitor but when gaming on high settings you're going to want more under the hood to max things out.

There have been no issues with frame rates with a 480 as the whole experience would be broken otherwise. You wrote that AMD advise that a RX 480 will power a VR headset but then you suggested that it actually wouldn’t as if you were aware of some hitherto unknown issue with the RX 480 that means it doesn’t work properly with VR.

Which would obviously be a concern to RX 480 owners or people who are thinking of going VR or people who use a 480 for VR, like me who have never noticed these mysterious issues. But now it sounds as if you were just imagining it instead. No that was not clear from what you wrote. Do you even have a 480 or have you run your VR setup on a 480 or are you just guessing? Which was not clear and was actually quite misleading.

 

[chaosophy]

There have been no issues with frame rates with a 480 as the whole experience would be broken otherwise. You wrote that AMD advise that a RX 480 will power a VR headset but then you suggested that it actually wouldn’t as if you were aware of some hitherto unknown issue with the RX 480 that means it doesn’t work properly with VR.

Which would obviously be a concern to RX 480 owners or people who are thinking of going VR or people who use a 480 for VR, like me who have never noticed these mysterious issues. But now it sounds as if you were just imagining it instead. No that was not clear from what you wrote. Do you even have a 480 or have you run your VR setup on a 480 or are you just guessing? Which was not clear and was actually quite misleading.

You're seriously reading far too much into what I wrote, which was...

"Bit like them saying the 480 is a VR card, it does do VR but you'd probably want something a bit more"

See the bit where I say it does do VR? And the zero bits where I say anything like suggesting it wouldn't do VR, or waffle about hitherto and mysterious unknown issues?

Chill. The 480 is fine for VR.

Besides, the whole point of my post was to say not to get hung up on the capable part of the comment in question but the halving of the cost.

People on here really just do want to jump on and twist every little thing.

 

[Freddie1980]

Here's a hint, I already admitted the typo and unfortunately for you Kaapstaad accepted this because he went from you can't add, to hilariously "the first thing they teach you in IT is to proof read". Now ignoring how patently ridiculous and false that is, he changed from you can't add to accepting the explanation of a typo, because if I can't add proof reading wouldn't detect it was wrong... because you know, I couldn't add. Proof reading would detect the typo.

However after that, when pressed on all the things he was wrong about.... he went straight back to attacking my character, as you have done. Also I was 3 out due to a typo, Kaapstad was what 1792(disclaimer, I did this from memory, it might be right, it might not be) out... but I can't add or proof read, seriously.

But being that you had a pop at me for lacking the strength of character to admit I was wrong.... surely you will admit you were wrong and maybe chastise Kaapstad for refusing to answer questions and continuing to attack addition and typos rather than discussing the points raised like you know, NVlink not being on anything but the GP100, which he's failed to address a single time.


AS for how people can't admit they are wrong and your and Gregster's analysis of the situation. YOu left out that when wrong, repeatedly and you can't answer the question, send out the bat signal and low and behold a few people turn up to also pile on about your character but lend nothing to the discussion on the content.

4 paragraphs............................

 

[Erik13]

Lol @ all that drama thinking that Vega would be competing only with Gtx 1080. Seems that thing was small Vega after all ... Btw adorabletv or whatever that channel is called is clearly full of sh.t now we know that for sure