AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

AlamoX · 12 Feb 2017 at 15:22

TheRealDeal;30496297 said:
Nvidia's is on the down as well. Nothing major as there price is so high. I think Nvidia just plateaued as there price just kept going up for the last few years.

nvidia are doing better than ever, thanks to the lack of AMD's high end in 2016, nvidia saw 50% increase in revenue last quarter.
and even intel relegated desktop to low priority for their business in favor of iot and servers, true they have been throwing money away in a succession of bad choises, but they wouldn't be in panic because of the desktop, maybe in Naples turns out to be a risk for them i would agree with adoredtv.

r7slayer · 12 Feb 2017 at 16:15

AlamoX;30496326 said:
nvidia are doing better than ever, thanks to the lack of AMD's high end in 2016, nvidia saw 50% increase in revenue last quarter.
and even intel relegated desktop to low priority for their business in favor of iot and servers, true they have been throwing money away in a succession of bad choises, but they wouldn't be in panic because of the desktop, maybe in Naples turns out to be a risk for them i would agree with adoredtv.

i didn't think intel went low priority with desktop parts? just mobile was moved away from being a priority and now server and datacentre parts are.

TheRealDeal · 12 Feb 2017 at 16:21

AlamoX;30496326 said:
nvidia are doing better than ever, thanks to the lack of AMD's high end in 2016, nvidia saw 50% increase in revenue last quarter.

I was talking about there share price which is on the way down. Over the last 5 days it has dropped $5. That's only around 4% though. Would loved to have bought some shares back a year or so ago when they were going for around $20. They peaked at $119.

AlamoX · 12 Feb 2017 at 16:35

r7slayer;30496451 said:
i didn't think intel went low priority with desktop parts? just mobile was moved away from being a priority and now server and datacentre parts are.

In an official statement released earlier, Intel called the job cuts a “restructuring initiative” meant to accelerate its transition from a PC company to one that is more focused on things like the cloud, its data center, and the Internet of Things. According to Intel, its data center and IoT businesses are its key growth engines – helped along by things like memory and field programmable gate arrays (FPGAs) – and these delivered US$2.2 billion in revenue growth for the company in 2015, amounting to a sizeable 40 percent chunk of revenue.

Full article " Intel cuts 12,000 jobs as PC industry flounders, shifts focus to cloud and IoT "

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 Feb 2017 at 21:56

So,anything new about Vega,or are we as much in the dark about it as last month??

old gamer · 12 Feb 2017 at 22:01

CAT-THE-FIFTH;30497329 said:
So,anything new about Vega,or are we as much in the dark about it as last month??

Yep pretty much

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 Feb 2017 at 22:11

old gamer;30497347 said:
Yep pretty much

LOL.

The Ryzen thread is definitely more.......interesting!!

Sargatanas2511 · 13 Feb 2017 at 11:31

Panos;30496026 said:
Unfortunately though small Vega is the 1080 opponent, and big Vega hits TXP.

Funny enough to remember some history and why we should be optimistic about Vega.

Up to 2009 Raja Kuduri was the head of ATI, before he went to Apple. And before he left, was responsible for the Cypress core. For those don't remember was powering the mighty 5870.

Came back late 2015 to AMD, which was half way developing the Polaris core, aka RX480.
And he is involved fully on the complete circle of Vega development.......

We don't know how fast they'll be yet but if small Vega was already a bit faster than a 1080 running on modded Fury Drivers (the Doom demo) and not really near a finished state in terms of clocks I would say it should be a reasonable amount quicker than a 1080 in final form.

This is educated guessing though and definitely not to be taken as any kind of fact.

humbug · 13 Feb 2017 at 11:44

what i miss?.... have been busy with the RyZen thread, so much going on in there........

Freddie1980 · 13 Feb 2017 at 12:14

AlamoX;30496496 said:
In an official statement released earlier, Intel called the job cuts a “restructuring initiative” meant to accelerate its transition from a PC company to one that is more focused on things like the cloud, its data center, and the Internet of Things. According to Intel, its data center and IoT businesses are its key growth engines – helped along by things like memory and field programmable gate arrays (FPGAs) – and these delivered US$2.2 billion in revenue growth for the company in 2015, amounting to a sizeable 40 percent chunk of revenue.

Full article " Intel cuts 12,000 jobs as PC industry flounders, shifts focus to cloud and IoT "

I wonder if Intel will make cuts in it's graphics team given the rumours that they will licence AMD's graphics technology?

LoadsaMoney · 13 Feb 2017 at 13:25

TNA · 13 Feb 2017 at 15:29

^^ lol

akarypid · 13 Feb 2017 at 19:45

Sargatanas2511;30498425 said:
We don't know how fast they'll be yet but if small Vega was already a bit faster than a 1080 running on modded Fury Drivers (the Doom demo) and not really near a finished state in terms of clocks I would say it should be a reasonable amount quicker than a 1080 in final form.

Why do we think that was small Vega being demoed?

Sargatanas2511 · 13 Feb 2017 at 20:29

akarypid;30500193 said:
Why do we think that was small Vega being demoed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwcUMZLvjYw&feature=youtu.be&t=1616

This was posted on page 160 with a whole lot of other information that shows Vega 10 was being used and that the small Vega started development before big Vega.

Rroff · 13 Feb 2017 at 20:37

Sargatanas2511;30500346 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwcUMZLvjYw&feature=youtu.be&t=1616

This was posted on page 160 with a whole lot of other information that shows Vega 10 was being used and that the small Vega started development before big Vega.

He doesn't confirm anything there. There is another video somewhere in which he infers that big Vega was ahead of small Vega in development.

LoadsaMoney · 13 Feb 2017 at 20:54

AMD Vega Glimpse May Be Coming On February 28th At GDC 2017 Capsaicin & Cream Event

http://wccftech.com/amd-announces-capsaicin-cream-livestreamed-graphics-event-gdc-2017/

TNA · 13 Feb 2017 at 20:59

Capsaicin & Cream. lol. Must be another one of Raja's ideas.

Won't be suprised is he names next years event "Roti and Saag"

Sargatanas2511 · 13 Feb 2017 at 21:14

Rroff;30500378 said:
He doesn't confirm anything there. There is another video somewhere in which he infers that big Vega was ahead of small Vega in development.

Do you think that big Vega would really be so close to a 1080? Where would that put small Vega?

They don't need another card with similar performance to a 290/390/480 and in their own promotional ve.ga video they basically called out Volta. It makes no sense for it to be big Vega in my opinion.

JediFragger · 13 Feb 2017 at 21:17

Sargatanas2511;30500502 said:
Do you think that big Vega would really be so close to a 1080? Where would that put small Vega?

They don't need another card with similar performance to a 290/390/480 and in their own promotional ve.ga video they basically called out Volta. It makes no sense for it to be big Vega in my opinion.

I'm going with 50% faster than a FuryX, which would put it in the 1080 ballpark (and ahead on certain strong AMD games where ya'know, tech is actually used).

Sargatanas2511 · 13 Feb 2017 at 21:24

JediFragger;30500510 said:
I'm going with 50% faster than a FuryX, which would put it in the 1080 ballpark (and ahead on certain strong AMD games where ya'know, tech is actually used).

I personally think this Vega (big or small, whichever it is) will end up about 10-20% faster than a 1080. This is purely from what has been shown months before launch with very immature drivers. Again though, this is nothing but educated guessing.