AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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Why 6GB Vram when a 390 comes with 8?

Shadow Play... when it works properly, when i set the recording to 130Mb/s and its actually recoding at that rate and not 35Mb/s, which is not yet in the year i have had the 970.
Or when its not setting a screen res at the Windowed mode some games start in and then does not change it to 1080P or 1440P when the game goes to full screen, its still set at the windowed resolution even if i tell shadowplay i want to record only in 1080P

The Gaming Evolved app while a re-skinned Raptr app uses AMD's VCE which as far as i can tell has a sharper more vivid image quality, it also worked flawlessly and always at the rate its set



It beats it in Hitman, so does the 390X, fancy that...

Wrong.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18732901

GTX 980 Ti OC is very near with Radeon Duo Single core OC.

If are talking about Async then you should talk about AMD DX11 overhead. There are 100s of DX11 games and very few DX12 games. As right now no one will buy a card just to play a couple of DX12 game and leave alone tons of DX11 games behind.

 

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Yea and how many 980ti's have you seen runnuing 1620 core. Even then as the resolution goes up it falls behind. The 1080 is not even 10% ahead in this game.

That what OC means. A GTX 980 Ti provides a better experience then a Fury X

And please do not talk about this game, which is totally broken on Dx11, negative steam review, terrible sales, terrible animations, and a terrible PC port.

 

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Is that the link you intended? what i see is the Fury-X beating the 980TI.

I said it is and i said it is very near but only in this game ,which is dead and no one talks about. on 99.9% games you will see GTX 980 TI OC winning.

 

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Pointless arguing with him, hes a troll, nothing more... his fall back is "the games broken, rubbish, console port yada yada" when faced with solid facts...

Anyhow this is a Vega thread, not a Power consumption, Nvidia or even Polaris thread.

We have months ahead of us of zero information, this thread should really be closed until then.

I never post anything without links or prof ,where as you keep insulting people because favourite has nothing to entertain or anything competitive in the market. That is the difference between you and me.

 

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Nothing competitive. So how do you explain AMD gaining market share. How do you explain the RX480 being OCUK's top selling card or was the last time Gibbo gave us some sales figures? If you meant nothing competitive at the high end then fair enough but at the mid-low tier AMD are plenty competitive atm.

Market share?

GTX 1080 0.44% (+0.18%)
GTX 1070 0.60% (+0.32%)
GTX 1060 0.17% (+0.15%)
RX 480 0.11% (+0.06%)
RX 470 0.01% (+0.01%)
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/

Now see how many gamers are using RX 480. Mostly RX 480 is bought by minners.

 

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Which has most users on this forum ?

Not here. RX 480 is hands down a better GPU because it is much better in DX12 compare to GTX 1060. Most of the users here are on RX 480 because simply it is better ,however, i am simply posting the numbers of steam.

 

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Only once in the many years have i bothered to fill in that survey. It's not very accurate if you ask me. Amd make big gains yet i can't see that in this survey which should tell you just how reliable it is as a gauge.

Survey only tells about how many users on steam are with RX 480. All most gamer use steam to buy PC games. People who do not use it simply pirate or do not game at all.

 

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I must admit, last year was better than this year for SLi. Hoping things improve a lot with DX12. New DX12 Tomb Raider patch certainly showed us what is possible with it!!

SLI started declining since Watch Dogs was released.

 

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Even if AMD released Vega and it smashed Nvidia to bits and was cheaper you would still opt for the Nvidia? interesting...

Seems a marred Xfire performance has killed you trust in AMD, along with their inability to release something non flawed in one way or another.

Dont get me wrong, im a massive AMD fan, but every and i mean every AMD release in the past 5 or more years has been flawed in one way or another.

290 - Extremely bad reference designed cooler

Fiji - massively overpriced, under performing at release "overclockers dream"

Polaris - Overpriced, bad reference cooler again and pcie power issues.

For me that means Vega is going to probably be Overpriced with a nasty reference cooler, but with that said aftermarket cards are generally better at fixing these reference short comings.

I had a Ref 290, moved to a Tri-X as soon as it was available, much much better card. If Vega turns out to be the same with a terrible ref cooler i will just move to the custom ones when they arrive.

However Nvidia arent angels with their reference designs, everyone knows the FE Pascal cards throttle, and even the Titan series many people recommend putting them under water to get the most from them, which again means a thermal issue solved by adding water cooling.

Anyhow im well off topic, i still have trust in AMD to design the architecture that suits me and Sapphire / Powercolor etc to actually make it work properly.

Even SLI is becoming non relevant not just CF. If Vega is efficient+performance then i will be getting with freesync monitor.

 

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Vega isn't going to smash Nvidia to bits.

In reality of course not but anything can happen. They have done it with HD 7xxx.

 

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They can't even get near the 1070, and thats not even Nvidias top card, as they have a faster 1080, and an even faster than that Titan out, so how are they going to get near, whatever card Nvidia have out, in over a years time, they're done, finished.

The real concern for AMD starts when GTX 1080 Ti is out. Nvidia will have 6 cards ,which will be faster then Fury X.

 

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Hum what?
did you mean the 1080 the added tax card vs Furyx maybe?
checked some deus:x numbers and I guess your statement means absolutely nothing then. Just saying people believe things that isn't true.

So Deus EX is the only game ,which has to noticeable difference between fury X and Fury Pro?

 

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Because in the new games an R9 290/R9 290X will increasingly thrash a GTX780??

Most of the newer games will run fine on a RX470/RX480 4GB/8GB or a GTX1060 6GB. An aftermaket R9 290/R9 290X is not massively different or massively slower.

What do you think an R9 390/390X is?? Its a faster R9 290/290X with more VRAM and slightly higher clocked VRAM.

Those R9 290 series cards will be fine for the next year or a bit longer. The sub £300 range is not really massively faster.

Until we hit a bigger performance bump under £300,most devs will target GTX970 or R9 290 level performance anyway.

The GTX780 lacks Vulkan performance,has worse DX12 performance and lacks VRAM.

You cannot equate the two cards together anymore.

If you had a GTX780 you will have more need to upgrade anyway. So that is what another 18 months to two years to an R9 290 then??

People are laughing all the way to the bank,because for an average gamer the R9 290 series cards have had a very long lifespan.

Plus having the same GCN gen as both the consoles,and the PS4 PRO being the same basic uarch anyway,that means lots of games will be developed for GCN1.1/GCN1.2 anyway.

Plus if people did a bit of mining on the side,they probably would have paid off the card now anyway.

AMD might have made some utterly disappointing cards,but the R9 290 series have proved their worth. Not even Fiji could really do enough!

If AMD had not done another subpar launch,the cards would have been considered in another way. They have themselves to blame for that one.

Like I said if Vega is not polished like the GTX1080 FE I am borrowing for a while,it does not matter even if it were GTX1080 speed for under £400.

Nvidia do polished launches and AMD has forgotten in some ways how to do that and leaves Nvidia chances.

I know you have some personal problem with Nvidia but please do some research up to date before posting baseless assumptions.

GTX 780 Open GL vs Vulkan Doom

Open GL

Spoiler

Vulkan

Spoiler

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/com...h_vulkan_on_an_older/?st=ivzg62ff&sh=ba10656c

 

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With ultra settings 1440p getting ~130fps there on the 1070 so no way a 780 would with anything like those settings.

EDIT: Not running latest version of Vulkan though so possible it would be a bit higher with that.

The pic ,which i posted is on ultra settings and 1080p.

 

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Lisa still did not learn anything from over hyping Fury X. Overclocking dream, world fastest card etc. and look what it turns out be. At least take a lesson from Nvidia book that you never over hype a product before its launch.

 

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Tbh there is such a thing as being realistic. There is not many here that even think 50% is achievable. If she came in and said we will be taking 80% then she would be locked up. The goal is 50% and no time scale is mentioned. I think it can be done but it's a hard ask any time in the next 2-3 years and possibly longer.

I would probably have said 40% to keep things real as they are not far off 30% atm. 50% in this climate is really reaching for the sky against Nvidia atm.

It can only be done if AMD beats Nvidia continuously from the top end with not only Raw performance but also with overclocking advantage and efficiency, which will never happen until big companies like Samsung or Microsoft fund them billions for it.

 

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Vega seems to have a redefined designed shader way more efficient than Polaris even.

Not way more.Max it will be only 10% more efficient or it will be same ,however, only front end will be more better than Fury X. It will be a redesign of Fury X from the bottom.