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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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So much doom and gloom. Remember it's Vega 10 and 11. I expect the big part to be matching or beating Titan Xp. What is the point in using HBM 2 if they are not going for the very top. Nvidia should in theory have released a 1080ti or have one coming at the same time.

With there being 2 chips that probably means 4 cards as per what usually happens. Some are judging Vega on Polaris when it looks like Vega is a step up again at least on efficiency so should be closer to Nvidia on this front. Other questions are what size is it going to be chip wise and how many Transistors.
 
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Rroff said:
Look at how many people seriously consider the 1060 even in situations where the 480 has everything going for it - people tend to do funny things with association sub-consciously when it comes to buying stuff and having a card around about the 1070 as well as the position the 480 is in would have helped to drive sales of it (the 480) a fair bit - more than people seem to want to believe.
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I think AMD could do with a rebrand - of themselves :). Or at least their graphics card business but would need to come up with the goods to justify it (not just do it for marketing purposes).
They need to break away from the underdog mentality and sometimes gimmicky marketing features (like HBM when the market/product didn't really need it). Over the years everything AMD has done or the products I have purchased have just put me off really considering their products.

I'd like to see a premium AMD brand - and then taking the fight straight to Nvidia on performance and then I'd consider their products again. Sod lower pricing, go after the performance and price the products accordingly.
So,a lot of people would just buy a 1060 and not even consider the 480 IMO, largely due to the AMD branding (how they perform, how they market their products, features, and also the experiences people have had with their products which ties in with branding too).
 
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Nvidia will already have a counter to Vega in the works, as soon as AMD release it NV will hit the button and crush it again. AMD are just to far behind to catch up now IMO (but I hope I am wrong).
 
Seanspeed said:
Some people have some truly terrible memory.

Fury X was a good deal beyond a 980 when it first released.
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The Fury X IMO was a lower performance part being pushed to the edge of its ability to try to compete at the top, proven by the need for a water cooler and limited overclocking ability.
 
slick rick said:
Nvidia will already have a counter to Vega in the works, as soon as AMD release it NV will hit the button and crush it again. AMD are just to far behind to catch up now IMO (but I hope I am wrong).
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They can only do this if Vega is not good. These things were designed years ago so if Vega comes up with the goods then Nvidia can't just magic a great Gpu out of the hat. It's up to AMD to deliver and it looks like they are taking extra time over Vega. I hope this is to get it right and not because they are struggling.
 
tyler_jrb said:
But at what cost? You could buy a decent 980Ti which was and still is quite a bit better performing card for next to no price increase.
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I never said the Fury X was a great buy. Just that it was certainly ahead of a 980 in performance. :/

The person was trying to paint things as if the Fury X was worse than a 980 and then grew to be where it is now, when it was *always* where it is now.

AMD seem to be getting better with their Day 1 drivers and so probably wont see the same gains that people saw with Hawaii and whatnot over time.
 
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DarrenM343 said:
The Fury X IMO was a lower performance part being pushed to the edge of its ability to try to compete at the top, proven by the need for a water cooler and limited overclocking ability.
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It was nothing of the kind. It's a monster sized performance chip and was just not up to competing with the superior gtx980ti. These things happen. Look at Fury X Doom performance to see what it's capable of under an api that let's it stretch it's legs.
 
SiDeards73 said:
Suits me fine tbh, WoW legion will release in a few days that will keep me busy uptil Christmas at the earliest, probably further too, my 290 Tri-X is coping admirably still :)

I'll swap to Vega when it lands, as its bound to be better than my 290 by a fair whack i would imagine. Only thing i intend on buying and playing in the future is Sea of Thieves and i have an Xbox One for that.

Funnily enough i just ordered 2 Dell Workstations for work and both of them come with a 1080 lol, they are going to sit unused for probably 90% of their life, in 3 years time they will be replaced by newer workstations, such is the cycle of their life.
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I had a 390X before I upgraded to a 1070. It could not run WoW maxed out without having FPS drops to the 20-30 mark in some locations, garrison/ashran especially. That was at 1440P with most settings at high. This was also pre 7.0 (they upgraded the graphics in 7.0). It was also loud as hell as it was being maxed out all the time.

Meanwhile my 1070 runs WoW (post 7.0 graphics upgrades) at 1440P, everything maxed, view distance on 10, at significantly higher FPS. I'm above 100 FPS 95% of the time, plus the card is whisper quiet and producing less than half the heat at the same time.

You literally cannot compare the difference between a 290x and 1070 in WoW - WoW is probably the most NVIDIA friendly game out there, AMD cards get crushed in this game.
 
Oh well, guess I'll be holding onto this Fury X longer than I expected.

Good thing the XFX ones were selling so well recently. They were €399/£340 just a while ago.

Dave2150 said:
I had a 390X before I upgraded to a 1070. It could not run WoW maxed out without having FPS drops to the 20-30 mark in some locations, garrison/ashran especially. That was at 1440P with most settings at high. This was also pre 7.0 (they upgraded the graphics in 7.0). It was also loud as hell as it was being maxed out all the time.

Meanwhile my 1070 runs WoW (post 7.0 graphics upgrades) at 1440P, everything maxed, view distance on 10, at significantly higher FPS. I'm above 100 FPS 95% of the time, plus the card is whisper quiet and producing less than half the heat at the same time.

You literally cannot compare the difference between a 290x and 1070 in WoW - WoW is probably the most NVIDIA friendly game out there, AMD cards get crushed in this game.
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I'm sorry but in heavy invasions areas and Ashran even your 1070 will drop to the same low levels.

Yes the 1070 is faster than the 390X, but it's not possible to stay over 100FPS 95% of the time, unless you do nearly nothing in the game except stand around outside of cities and avoid crowded or new areas.

Even my SLI 980Ti Superclocked cards have tanked below even 20FPS in Ashran, and even during the invasions when they first appeared. Even the Alliance garrison with it's heavy shadows would barely let my system keep 60-80fps; and that was before the 7.0.3 patch.

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Panos said:
bliah, no wonder never wanted to play that game. How cluttered popup fest is that?
DAOC, EVE, TESO made a good choice it seems :)
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Popup fest? I don't understand that.

Although having played all three games you mention, they're all wildly different in gameplay, mechanics, and user interface. Not really comparable.

DAOC is the closest of them to WoW, and even that is very different over all.

Also things tend to get cluttered when nearly hundreds of people and npcs are in the same spot.

EVE is well known for that, hence zooming out so far it's essentially a spreadsheet of labels, and brightly flashing lights :D
 
Doom112 said:
AMD update on VEGA launch.
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So nothing we didn't know already thats been their roadmap for some time now. Also short on details on hardware, etc and no specifics at all. Hardly any news at all then. But I guess thats all grist to the rumour mill and will fuel endless pages of pointless speculation and conjecture.
 
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Dave2150 said:
You literally cannot compare the difference between a 290x and 1070 in WoW - WoW is probably the most NVIDIA friendly game out there, AMD cards get crushed in this game.
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So if AMD cards are clearly better than Nvidia in a certain game, we can also rule that out from using in a comparison?
 
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