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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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AllBodies said:
You have a source on the size?
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Estimates from pictures range from 475 to 560mm2
Point is, it is a massive change from regular GCN CUs. Even if potential for high performance is there, it won't all be there at launch.

I predict Vega will not reach stock 1080Ti performance apart from couple edge cases. And it will overclock worse.
Being 1 year late to the party already, they need to be very smart with pricing.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Not going to be doing that, it's a friend's that I get to use until my RMA is sorted and I get a new card.
It's already factory overclocked from what I remember; running it last night it was at around 1350Mhz in The Division.

Gotta admit though, missing FreeSync already!
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I know you won't be doing that. That is not what I meant. The way you said "Have to settle for a 980Ti Hybrid at the moment", it sounded like it was a huge downgrade or something (very inconvenient), like say a very old back up card. Hence my comment :p
 
People keep talking about how the RX580 will be but the only specs I have seen are from WCCFtech. Since when was this a site that people took the info as gospel?

It may well be true but it's weird how factual people are talking about it with what I can see as the only source being them.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
People keep talking about how the RX580 will be but the only specs I have seen are from WCCFtech. Since when was this a site that people took the info as gospel?
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Since Loadsamoney started posting their links here pretty much on a daily basis :p

Research shows the more you see something, the more you start to believe it. Like fake news and alternative facts. lol
 
TNA said:
Since Loadsamoney started posting their links here pretty much on a daily basis :p

Research shows the more you see something, the more you start to believe it. Like fake news and alternative facts. lol
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Well hopefully people will read that and think about it for a second rather than reading what he says and believing it all.
 
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TNA said:
I know you won't be doing that. That is not what I meant. The way you said "Have to settle for a 980Ti Hybrid at the moment", it sounded like it was a huge downgrade or something (very inconvenient), like say a very old back up card. Hence my comment :p
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Ah yeah haha. Well considering most of my acceleration in workloads is OpenCL, and I like FreeSync the experience certainly feels more stuttery :/

I actually sold him the two 980Ti cards last year, along with my G-Sync monitor. Changed the man's life after he experience Adaptive-Sync. :D
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
I have only seen info from WCCFtech personally, that's why I asked.
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Best to ignore anything they post really. Let's not forget their constant stories about how the RX 480 would easily clock to 1400 and 1500Mhz, and then match the GTX 1070 or AMD Fury at launch.

They post a lot of silly things, most of it with no true source. Best to just sit and wait again.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Best to ignore anything they post really. Let's not forget their constant stories about how the RX 480 would easily clock to 1400 and 1500Mhz, and then match the GTX 1070 or AMD Fury at launch.

They post a lot of silly things, most of it with no true source. Best to just sit and wait again.
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They really should have been able to mind - if you look at the older AMD presentation with Polaris at 850MHz on ridiculously low voltage - all the indications were it would manage close to double that on normal voltages - and probably would if produced anywhere but GF - both TSMC and Intel's equivalent processes can manage 1.5GHz with FPGAs using certain ARM Cortex processors while GF apparently could only offer up 1.2GHz.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Best to ignore anything they post really. Let's not forget their constant stories about how the RX 480 would easily clock to 1400 and 1500Mhz, and then match the GTX 1070 or AMD Fury at launch.

They post a lot of silly things, most of it with no true source. Best to just sit and wait again.
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I will never forget that and never take them seriously ever again. I never put much stock in what they said before anyway, but all the lies about the 480 they made up for clicks is unforgivable. That is why it surprises me that this place gets so many links posted here from them (not just loadsamoney).

I still remember Humbug getting his hopes up a lot and even having arguments with people based on the fake news posted about the RX 480. lol :p
 
Rroff said:
They really should have been able to mind - if you look at the older AMD presentation with Polaris at 850MHz on ridiculously low voltage - all the indications were it would manage close to double that on normal voltages - and probably would if produced anywhere but GF - both TSMC and Intel's equivalent processes can manage 1.5GHz with FPGAs using certain ARM Cortex processors while GF apparently could only offer up 1.2GHz.
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It'd be great to see an RX 480 produced at TSMC or Samsung themselves just the see the true potential.

Let's not forget the 1050 Ti, made by Samsung, clocks up to ~2 GHz still and has the highest perf/w of all the Pascal cards. Despite smaller cards having lower perf/w usually.
 
TNA said:
I still remember Humbug getting his hopes up a lot and even having arguments with people based on the fake news posted about the RX 480. lol
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Wasn't just wccf's inventions - plenty of other sources that suggested it was likely - infact it looks like samples were indicating a different capability to the actual overall production quality - lots of indicators there like the power setup, etc.
 
Rroff said:
Wasn't just wccf's inventions - plenty of other sources that suggested it was likely - infact it looks like samples were indicating a different capability to the actual overall production quality - lots of indicators there like the power setup, etc.
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Be that as it may, they seemed to take it to another level from what I remember.

That said, it just goes to show that Polaris likely would have been a much better card if not for GloFo messing it up :(
 
AllBodies said:
It'd be great to see an RX 480 produced at TSMC or Samsung themselves just the see the true potential.

Let's not forget the 1050 Ti, made by Samsung, clocks up to ~2 GHz still and has the highest perf/w of all the Pascal cards. Despite smaller cards having lower perf/w usually.
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Personally I think that is more likely than ever. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that GF and AMD specify MINIMUM annual commitment in the WSA. AMD's problem was that it wasn't selling much (uncompetitive CPUs, barely competitive GPUs...)

Things have changed now. With AMD selling Ryzen chips like hotcakes (and Naples / APUs to come) I'm pretty sure they're likely to cover that minimum commitment (or at least come close enough so that any penalties won't matter).

So I don't think it impossible that we might see GPUs manufactured elsewhere (at least the high-end Vega parts).
 
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