Good possibility you will. But maybe not in June, such card may come a little later like how the Nano did.
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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1
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Yeah, hoping they have the entire Vega range out in 2017.
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You are missing my point. If there are 2 different chips which I think 10 and 11 are. The smaller Vega chip competing with the 1070/1080 won't have that huge 70% difference you think there will be. The Rx580 already has a speed bump to close the gap slightly to a 1070. The bigger chip which should be competing with the likes of the Ti should be way faster than the Rx580. So in theory if there are 2 different sized chips you could see 3 to 4 different cards varying in speed from 1070 to 1080ti. A full Vega 10 and a cut down along with a full Vega 11 and a cut down. Any how it's all guess work but there should be 2 different chips to fill up the market slots they having left all to Nvidia for the last year.
Not sure there is a small and big Vega in the sense some people are talking - looks like there is a big Vega then a planned revision that is also a big chip but maybe intended for a "half-node" or something like that equivalent to TSMC's "12nm".
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If there is not 2 different chips then why the name Vega 10 and 11 like Polaris 10 and 11 which are 2 different chips. Either Amd have changed there naming from Polaris or there is 2 different chips coming.
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My thoughts exactly.
So the RX 580 is going to be ~6% faster than the RX480 based on the clocks and TFLOPs figures, and the same price. However, there are already pre-overclocked RX 480s out there and we don't know if AMD are just eating into this headroom or whether the RX 580 will actually clock higher generally. Also we don't know if it'll suck more juice for that small boost or not. Plus there's the whole "new shiny" tax that'll apply just after launch. Basically it doesn't look terribly exciting - will it actually be worth it over a second hand RX 480?
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Vega is the only GPU launch from AMD to look forward to imo, this Polaris refresh isn't much to look at at all.
I had a thought here.
Vega has same 4096 CUs as Fury. Almost identical die size. But on 14nm process it should be much smaller.
Meaning Vega uses many more transistors per every computing unit, plus even more on these new features, caching, memory controller, geometry. OK, couple that with faster clocks and performance SHOULD be there.
SHOULD be, IF games can utilize more advanced CUs to full extent.
My thought is we are back to situation when GCN architecture was first introduced. How long did it take until games/drivers/directx learned to fully utilize it? 3 years? 5 years? FineWine ages slowly. But its crap when its young.
Vega has same 4096 CUs as Fury. Almost identical die size. But on 14nm process it should be much smaller.
Meaning Vega uses many more transistors per every computing unit, plus even more on these new features, caching, memory controller, geometry. OK, couple that with faster clocks and performance SHOULD be there.
SHOULD be, IF games can utilize more advanced CUs to full extent.
My thought is we are back to situation when GCN architecture was first introduced. How long did it take until games/drivers/directx learned to fully utilize it? 3 years? 5 years? FineWine ages slowly. But its crap when its young.
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You have a source on the size? I highly doubt it's around 600mm2, especially since the Titan XP/1080 Ti are around 470mm2.
I also doubt it's half the size of the Fury X. I was assuming a very similar size to the Titan XP.
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I hope it isn't far off and big Vega trounces the 1080Ti. A competitive market is a good market 
Indeed. That is what I want the most, as we will all benefitI hope it isn't far off and big Vega trounces the 1080Ti. A competitive market is a good market
Yeah, I doubt it will be 596mm2 die on 14nm, if it was it would likely trounce the Titan XP. I have no confidence GloFo could do that with decent yields anyway. 28nm was super mature when they did that. Maybe 500mm2, which would be great, but likely 438mm2.
Also AMD would be in big trouble if it was Titan XP performance at 600mm2.
Nvidia have a new arch (Volta) and about 30% more die size to play with. So it's safe to say Nvidia could build something 40-50% faster than a Titan XP before 16/14nm is over (i.e. a 600mm2 Volta card).
Indeed. This is why it puzzles me a little why people think Vega will only be competing with 1070 or 1080 at best. If that is true they really are in trouble and are way behind Nvidia (very doubtful). Even by beating Titan X come say June, they are to me behind already, but at least not miles behind.
I hope it isn't far off and big Vega trounces the 1080Ti. A competitive market is a good market
I hope so as well. My poor Fury X is being RMA'd due to artifacting, and crashing.
Have to settle for a 980Ti Hybrid at the moment; come on AMD.
Well even settling for the Hybrid 980Ti, it will be a bit of an upgrade right there if it OCs well
Well even settling for the Hybrid 980Ti, it will be a bit of an upgrade right there if it OCs well
Not going to be doing that, it's a friend's that I get to use until my RMA is sorted and I get a new card.
It's already factory overclocked from what I remember; running it last night it was at around 1350Mhz in The Division.
Gotta admit though, missing FreeSync already!
AMD haven't changed the naming - but people (apparently) misunderstood what the naming meant with Polaris - the numbers are just the order in which different variations of a core architecture started development.
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